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jolene 09-16-2016 01:05 PM

Heroin is huge. A Georgia Tech baseball player died ODing a few years ago. He apparently had no history with drugs, but, per rumor, his roommate dabbled in H. Tech is very close to an area in Atlanta called "The Bluff" which is noted for heroin (among other drugs). The people who live there are doing their best to turn it around, but it takes time. A local TV station also did a series on 'the heroin triangle' in Atlanta. It's scary. I have a daughter in middle school and these things terrify me. Sorry to highjack the thread.

33girl 09-16-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TXDG (Post 2419151)
A lot of kids are first introduced to drugs at "pill parties" in high school where kids raid their parents cabinets for whatever they can find- opiates like OxyContin and Hydrocodone are pretty easy to find. Some of these kids will graduate to heroin products once they run out - it's cheaper and more accessible. Some are prescribed opiates after athletic injuries/surgeries and become hooked. This heroin epidimic is hitting the middle and upper classes hard. It's not the "stereotypical" junkies shooting up in dirty drug dens anymore; it's a lot closer to Prince accidentally ODing on pain pills cut with fentanyl.

Exactly this. The fact that heroin is the second-choice drug is just amazingly f'ed up.

As far as the original post, I would tell your daughter to run like the wind from any chapters that spread such rumors.

tootiepie2 09-16-2016 05:06 PM

A LSU fraternity pledge also died of a heroin overdose last year ( or maybe year before, time flies!!) It is very scary and is becoming the drug of choice in a lot of places.

TXDG 09-16-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2419160)
Exactly this. The fact that heroin is the second-choice drug is just amazingly f'ed up.

I agree. I think they mistakenly think if they aren't shooting up, it's not as dangerous. The dealers are mixing heroin with everything from OTC cold medication to fentanyl (pain killer that is something like 1,000 times stronger than morphine and typically used for cancer patients) to elephant tranquilizers. Users truly do not know what they are using and that is super dangerous. One dose could barely get you high one day, and the same amount of heroin could kill you the next day if it's mixed differently.

Across the US, more people have died from heroin OD's than in car accidents over the last two years.

If you have kids, teenagers, college students, etc in your life, you need to be talking to them about heroin. And educate yourself about what heroin looks like in 2016.

{TXDG hops off her soapbox!!}

Munchkin03 09-16-2016 06:32 PM

When I first read this, I suspected it was tent talk. I'm glad to see that everyone else agrees.

OP, I have to say that it's a good thing that your daughter told you about this, and expressed her disgust. Not sure I would have felt as comfortable telling my own mom about it. It sounds like she may have a good head on her shoulders! :)

I walk through San Francisco's worst neighborhood on my way to work, and it's heartbreaking how many people one sees just nodding off in the middle of the street, standing up. I've heard a few stories about mutual acquaintances getting hooked on heroin, but nothing too substantial for now.

TXDG 09-16-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jolene (Post 2419152)
Heroin is huge. A Georgia Tech baseball player died ODing a few years ago. He apparently had no history with drugs, but, per rumor, his roommate dabbled in H. Tech is very close to an area in Atlanta called "The Bluff" which is noted for heroin (among other drugs). The people who live there are doing their best to turn it around, but it takes time. A local TV station also did a series on 'the heroin triangle' in Atlanta. It's scary. I have a daughter in middle school and these things terrify me. Sorry to highjack the thread.

Here's a link to the Atlanta local news series on the heroin crisis in the northern Atlanta burbs. It is certainly eye-opening for those who are under the impression that heroin is still an inner city drug or that heroin still has a stigma attached to it.

Would many/any parents know if their teenager texted his/her dealer, left a $20 under your front doormat, and picked up the heroin delivery from the mat after the dealer dropped it off?? Because that's what's happening.

http://www.11alive.com/mb/news/inves...ation/94225151

SoCalGirl 09-17-2016 08:25 AM

An article regarding pot and heroin. http://www.vox.com/2016/9/9/12824282...ical-marijuana

There's debate if the legalization of pot has led to more deadly heroin.

33girl 09-17-2016 02:10 PM

That article is spot on. The Oxy/heroin crisis was rearing its head well before my dad died and that was almost 8 years ago.

KDCat 09-17-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2419150)
Nope. It is very common, especially since it has been purified so that it's snortable. Do some research. The "my kid would never be that stupid" is exactly the problem. It may not be coke or molly common, but it is also far more dangerous.


+1

Heroin is everywhere right now. It's cheap and common, and it's easy to OD and die on that stuff.

sissyintexas 09-19-2016 02:31 PM

To the poster above who said Texas A&M is not a "hard drug campus." EVERY campus is a hard drug campus - especially where we are talking tens of thousands of students. Opiate/Opioid use is an epidemic among high school age and college kids. It starts with oxycodone and codeine and when that no longer gets the result they are looking for they move on to heroin.

It is not just a "street drug" anymore. I live in a fairly affluent area and without thinking I can name 6 kids who have died from heroin overdoses in the past 3 years. Where there is money, there will be drugs.

ASTalumna06 09-19-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2419356)
To the poster above who said Texas A&M is not a "hard drug campus." EVERY campus is a hard drug campus - especially where we are talking tens of thousands of students. Opiate/Opioid use is an epidemic among high school age and college kids. It starts with oxycodone and codeine and when that no longer gets the result they are looking for they move on to heroin.

It is not just a "street drug" anymore. I live in a fairly affluent area and without thinking I can name 6 kids who have died from heroin overdoses in the past 3 years. Where there is money, there will be drugs.

Very true.

I am currently attending a huge insurance conference and there was a presentation about workers comp and drug use. According to the CDC, deaths from opioid pain killer overdoses now top deaths from heroin and cocaine combined.

The thought, "At least it's not heroin" doesn't even apply. All of these drugs are a concern.

Munchkin03 09-19-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sissyintexas (Post 2419356)
EVERY campus is a hard drug campus - especially where we are talking tens of thousands of students.

Yes. At my Ivy League undergrad, I could have told you how to get any of the "hard drugs," and I didn't do anything harder than alcohol. This was back in the early aughts, when most people my age were scared off of heroin because of Kurt Cobain.

jenidallas 09-19-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 2419360)
Very true.

I am currently attending a huge insurance conference and there was a presentation about workers comp and drug use. According to the CDC, deaths from opioid pain killer overdoses now top deaths from heroin and cocaine combined.

The thought, "At least it's not heroin" doesn't even apply. All of these drugs are a concern.

And then there is the wave of middle class professionals who are turning to heroin because it has become easier to obtain than opioid pain drugs due to changes in prescribing laws. Chronic pain control is a health care gap in many communities across the US and many health care systems don't have the resources to deal with these patients outside the inpatient setting. As a result, many are self-medicating, often with disastrous results.


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