I feel you, Q5. . .

If we do our research, we will find there are plenty of non-sappy songs from non-HBCU's. Plenty of the songs from WAY back in the day, though dated, are very meaningful even though they might not be in the "HBCU style."

I'll respect any song written by a Brother, especially if he or she has put his heart into writing a song glorifying the principles of this Fraternity, much like the prolific David Mossesson.

So. . .let's get to writing!

Its all a matter of respect and understanding the deeper meaning. Just like some people dont dig classical but the can listen all day and night to hip hop...in some cases if they understood some of the deeper meaning they would dig it.

I'm going to get to writing, as a matter of fact i am going to wake one of my brothers up right now to get some info from him....although up here today is recovery day. It'll give me something to do with my other skills.

ok now i am going to just assume youre white. I dont think theres any other answer to that cause i am sure just about anyone else would get that.

all i have to say is you reallly need some diversity training, you have the nerve to say "colored " schools, where are you from, and how dare you say colored, is this slavery time again, dont ever say some *ish like that agian, Colored, thats a funny one.

Casanova
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Where do you get off making demands to total strangers, I dare say it and will do so as i choose as is my right. Now you want to make a deal of it start another thread cause this is not what was to be discussed.

So speaking of SONGS. . .

So back in the day before we had a second verse to the Toast Song, some chapters sang it twice, and had a soloist sing the first half of it the second time around.

Also, in the minutes of the National Board on the national site, it seems as though we had a Sweetheart Song. . .but I have not seen the lyrics to said song.

Nice move.... I think i have seen the sweetheart song, not sure where though, might have just heard about it. But if there was one printed as a nat'l publication i think i might know where to get a copy, let me know if it was ever a nat'l publication.

From the July 25, 1965 National Board Minutes:

"The committee voted to accept with appreciation a Sweetheart Song written for APO by Mr. Stephen Chalfa, father of Nick Chalfa, Iota Rho, Florida State."


From the December 27-29, 1966 National Board Minutes:

"Accepted with appreciation the donation of an APO 'Sweetheart Song' from Iota Rho, Florida State University"

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So, if there was a national document with such a song, it would probably have been first published between '65 and '67.

Q5, you have AIM? If so, send me your screen name in an email.

the 60's now thats going to be a hard time to find archived stuff. I am going to check the archives at my school because they keep a lot of things of that nature for orgs on this campus. I dont know how it is everywhere else but its extremely hard to find things about organizations during that time period in hardcopy form.

u that girl thats a gss and an apo ok i dont need to ask anymore questions.
lol

Toast Song
 

FYI...there is legislation to change the Toast Song in New Orleans. I noticed it in the most recent version of the T&T.

This is an interest sub-topic embedded in this discussion. A large an old topic. That is black individuals that have been so far away from blacks that they can not fit back into it's culture. For one to be black an utter "colored" when decribing other black individuals, would seem very strange amongst a crowd of black people. (North or South). However, if the individual, although being black, did not develop within a black culture, they would feel right at home saying "colored" with their community of development.

There are even individuals that are black but do not consider themselves to be such. The opinion comes off as being arrogant, with the thought of being above individuals who consider themselves black. Also these individuals distinguish themselves by never adopting any other speak but a their own diverse community's vanacular to help show evidence of having a different state of being.

Now this separate personality is not a bad thing to have. You need to be able to communicate effectively with people outside your own race. The problem is not being able to communicate with people within your own race. Thinking that your edcuation, your personality, your high standards, or even your non-black
friends can pull you above your own race, is not only self centered, it is also not reality.

Back to the topic at hand...
 

I came across two interesting extra verses. I thought they were pretty funny to sing... especially in public. These are sung in the same way we sing the toast song

Back your girl into a corner,
Turn the lights down low.
Place one hand upon her bosom,
The other down below.
When she starts to shake and shiver,
Tell her so she'll know--
That's the secret handshake of
The men of A-Phi-O.

And for the ladies...

Lead your guy on to the dance floor
Press your bodies tight
Tell him what he wants to hear
That he'll get some tonight
Let him walk you to your doorstep
Let him think you're cheap
Then send him home in agony
Where he can BEAT HIS MEAT

I got it from the Epsilon Lambda site
http://www.martinek.us/humor/songs.html

Forreal, colored schools??? I coulda sworn this is like 2003 or something. I think the term colored left with Jim Crow on the bus that Rosa rode on.

Anyway Rashid, I think that adding more songs would be tight. I might holla at cha with some lyrics myself :p