I think that all of us are saddened by the events that these guys did. However do you think that this would have made the front page of USAToday.com if the group had been someone other than greeks?

I tend to think not...as we all know, simply because we have chosen to create and continue our wonderful organizations we become targets. Do they threaten to shut down residence halls when someone is caught with alcohol? Of course not. Does the math club or any other club lose it's recogonition as a University approved club if one of their members were to hurt themselves after attending a club sponsored party? I'd bet it would be a cold day in hell before something like that were to happen...Another example, just happened on UNL's campus (read about it here ) where a student stabs two others with scissors after they and 2 others kicked in this student's door...Is the university doing anything about this? Nope...just handed it over to the police...do you think the same thing would have happened if it had been between two greeks?

I think that perhaps we should use this opportunity to let USAToday know that we as Greeks don't appreciate being singled out. You can send comments to USAToday here .

imagine
 

if one of them were surrounded by a group of pigs...
hmmmm....
mmcat:p

That's horrible! :( What were they thinking? Or were they thinking at all? :(

Disgusting!!!:eek: :mad:

I emailed the paper but it said it had failures so it may not work.

Betarulz, I'm sorry, but how can you turn this into a "they're just targeting us Greeks" incident? There are many times when it does seem Greeks are being targeted, but I think this is a little bigger than that. This behavior is UNACCEPTABLE for anyone, Greek or non-greek, and I think if it were another student organization that has to answer to the university (athletic team, perhaps) that it would be front page news.

who in the world would even think to torture a pig? i'm sure their energies could have been put into something more constructive and beneficial. i was really hoping the article was a joke, but apparently not. that is some sick sh**.

oh my goodness that is sad poor pig who would ever think of that? sigh that is why i dont drink

Re: imagine
 

Too true, I wonder what would happen if they were surrounded by pigs. Some people are so stupid.

I agree that this was a horrible incident for anyone to do, and I'm just as disgusted by it as everyone else. However, I truely believe that if another university group were to have commited this act, we would not be seeing it on the front page of USAToday.com...I'm not even sure that this would have made anything more than the campus news at Wake Forest, the local city newspapers at most. Would the individuals have been caught? Probably yes, but I sincerely doubt that the Pre-med club, or an a cappella group, or a club sport team would have found there names sprawled across the website of a National newspaper's website. That difference is what makes this an incident where Greeks are being targeted with more scrutinizing coverage. And that's what's unfair.

I think that the stabbing that occurred at my campus is a good example of the difference in coverage of greek vs non-greek incidents. If it had been fraternity members, the agressors' chapter would more than likely be under some sort of University probation, alumni may desire a membership review for the whole house, and it would be possible for the chapter to be suspended by their nationals.

NEWS RELEASE
Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity
ZOLLINGER HOUSE,
Richmond, Virginia
2:00 p.m., April 30, 2002 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Craig D. Templeton, Executive Director
Phone: 804-353-1901 FAX: 804-359-8160

RICHMOND, VIRGINIA...Sigma Phi Epsilon National Fraternity immediately suspended the charter and all activities of its Wake Forest University chapter pending a complete investigation of reported cruelty to animals by some members of the Wake Forest chapter.

"Sigma Phi Epsilon condemns the acts being reported over the weekend from Wake Forest University," said Executive Director Craig D. Templeton. "The apparent acts of these members absolutely contradict the teachings and values of respect on which our Fraternity is based."

"Our staff is cooperating completely with local authorities to investigate all aspects of this incident," Templeton said today. "It is always unfortunate when the acts of a few reflect negatively on an entire group."

The investigation presently involves 20 members of the 80-man Wake Forest fraternity that is marked with grades and performance above the campus average.

I am a big pig fan (side note: I got to touch a real pig for the first time today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - You think at a hick school Id see more... but no, went to a petting zoo) I cant see how anyone can be cruel to any animal or any human for that matter.....

I cant even kill bugs....

I can't believe that people would out rightly do that to a helpless animal. Honestly, there are no words to say how I feel about this...

Sometimes it just makes me wonder, Where do people come up with these brillant ideas ?!!!

(I hate to rehash this thread..but...)

I don't think it makes a difference that the people who did this were Greek, in the way the case was publicized. Something like this would have been written up somewhere no matter who the perps were, at least AP would have covered it, if not USA Today.

As for campus crimes, our local and university papers cover attacks extensively, regardless of whether they were committed by a member of a Greek organization or another person. And there have been a lot of attacks going on lately, for varying reasons (mostly biased) :(

Also, if one or two members of a Greek group did something, I don't imagine that the entire chapter would be ostracized and their charter reviewed/revoked. This situation involved nearly, if not the entire, fraternity, from my understanding. If any group, be it the band or the honor society, or whatever, all got together and did something cruel/inhumane and/or illegal, I strongly think the group would be punished as severely as this fraternity.

As for the pig.. WAHHHHHHHHHH.. pigs are my favourite animals, and I'm a huge animal lover/animal welfare advocate :(

Adri

What a bunch of A$$holes they are!! I hope that someone puts the smackdown on them!