I see...well I guess I'm not in the business of coercing people to vote. IF the fact that our ancestors, fought, shed blood, and died for the right to vote...isnt enough to get someone to the polls...don't know if the vote is really beneficial

Doesn't he have a show now?

Yes, it comes on PBS. I try to catch it when I can. He has great guests on it all the time.

I think for many people who could vote and do not vote, especially young people, to say people fought for us to be able to vote does not carry much weight because it is not in their true cultural memory. If the adults and educators in your world do not make this something that you can relate to or really feel, it will have little affect. If you have not been made to watch Eyes on the Prize and seen the video of the dogs, the fire hoses, etc. you may feel disconnected from this history. Also, given the state of education here, there are many who cannot understand civics to understand what impact their vote will or will not have. As with most issues, you have to show people how it affects them to get them to understand why they should take a particular action.

Personally, it is important to me to do voter education in communities that are overlooked and ignored that much hope will not ever get it together and vote. I don’t see it as coercing. Usually it only takes a little education and taking the time to look at someone who feels disenfranchised as a person worth listening to in order to get them to see they have something to say.

Although many of the things on the list are common sense, it does not mean that people do them. I see nothing wrong with keeping these thoughts in front of people and encouraging them to make them part of their routine. Additionally, I think many are also offered as discussion points to stimulate dialogue. We will never all think alike but that does not mean that there will not be some common ground or shared beliefs.

Besides, many of the most revered quotes over time do nothing but state the obvious succinctly. I am not mad at Tavis for doing that. There is nothing more amazing than how much more affective an argument can be when you KISS (keep it short and sweet- as my professor used to say)

Good show
 

This forum was so good I found myself watching it twice. My 10 year old son even got into it which I was proud to see. I am and will be forever in awe of Cornel West and the knowledge and wisdom that he possess. Simply amazing. Julia Hare, Judge Greg Mathis and the young brother, Jordan A. Harris were very good (for the lack of a better word) as well.

I think u missed my point...I didnt say anything was wrong with what he said...what I said was I couldn't see the big deal over his comments because they were all common sense...people were reacting to what he said as if it was so really enlightening....so I guess people are just getting excited about hearing him repeat things that have been said for years....:confused:

Tavis does have a show on PBS. In my area it comes on at 12:30 am.

Agree to disagree...move on...old thread...did you all see the forum?
 

If so, isn't that THEIR right?

Maybe, as one "grows" he or she sees something in a different light... it becomes relevant to them IN THEIR OWN TIME/WAY. What's wrong with that?

Many may not be as enlightened as you. You are to be commended for ALL of YOUR knowledge AND wisdom you bring to the board on the subjects you are very passionate about.

If someone is excited about something... LET THEM HAVE THEIR EXCITEMENT... regardless of how many times it has been said or not been said. The way the world is today, we ALL need to get excited about something. Obviously, what has been said YEARS AGO hasn't gotten through to MOST/SOME/ALL of us.


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TO ALL(SIDEBAR, I GUESS):

What I've learned in all my years on GC is that everyone will not own your opinion. You will not own their opinion. Do not AUTOMATICALLY discount/discredit someone because you do not share the same beliefs, etc. At the end of the day, you only will find yourself upset wondering..."how dare she or he say, think or feel this way..."? Make your point...move on...

THE END!

Just a lil tidbit from your Moderator. :D ;)

Re: Agree to disagree...move on...old thread...did you all see the forum?
 

ANd if someone wants to post something...then they have that right to...right?? Whether its in agreement or disagreement....at least that's what i thought...

Oh, okay. I don't know that I think I have really seen anyone make a big deal about it but I do agree that in a sound bite kind of world, he who can take common thoughts and turn them into concise nuggets gets the glory.

Did we miss the points or issues that were being made during the forum by just concentrating on Tavis ??
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I was very enlightened by several guests, Marva Collins , Julia Hare, and Cornel West. Actually every guest had a nugget of truth and wisdom that should be heard by all?

The next step is .......

I think the issue came with the original posts. This was an old topic which dealt with Tavis Smiley. Since I saw the forum last weekend, I brought this thread "to the top" edited the title to reflect the forum.

Please check the date of the first few posts.