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sphinxpoet 03-20-2002 11:27 AM

The Alphas and Sigmas hadd a party out here in the Pyramids on Campus called the Blue and Gold Jam. The ALphas and Ques out in Jersey had a party a couple of weeks ago. I personally think chapters are doing this because the demands to perform events are so high and you have only 2 or 3 people in your chapter you need to work with other to get things off the ground. My chapter performed a mentorship program with Zetas in the Past. There is nothing wrong in practice.....sure it may make us feel uncomfortable but we are in an era where our unity is our greatest strength because when we are divided we fall easier.

Sphinxpoet

PrettyKitty 03-20-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sphinxpoet
The Alphas and Sigmas hadd a party out here in the Pyramids on Campus called the Blue and Gold Jam. The ALphas and Ques out in Jersey had a party a couple of weeks ago. I personally think chapters are doing this because the demands to perform events are so high and you have only 2 or 3 people in your chapter you need to work with other to get things off the ground. My chapter performed a mentorship program with Zetas in the Past. There is nothing wrong in practice.....sure it may make us feel uncomfortable but we are in an era where our unity is our greatest strength because when we are divided we fall easier.

Sphinxpoet

Well said L!

Now as for rivalries of the past...let me correct that...cause it's not always the past, it's the present and future for some folk :rolleyes:
Now, there absolutely nothing wrong with doing your THANG, that is why we are separate organiZations, b/c we all wanted to OUR OWN THANG. However, somewhere in this grew a separatist identity and some of us have forgotten that we represent more than just 3 letters. I might even have felt a lil questionable about some "alliances" in the past but that is before I saw the bigger picture. Being in a BGLO doesn't make you different from your fellow man or woman, contrary to popular belief, it doesn't make you better or superior. As long we are black in this country we will forever be bonded to one another regardless of whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. I, personally, celebrate diversity and unity among all our people. And I believe that this week that ST mentioned, as well as other co-sponsored events on other campuses gives hope that things are changing for the positive. :)

Can tradition be changed? Is it possible to do something new w/o ruffling feathers? How many people have experienced friction in their graduate chapter b/c they wanted to introduce new and exciting ideas....How is this any different? How will it hurt greeks on that campus or as a whole to have joint programs, activities, or weeks? Hmmm....things to think about...


Ideal08 03-20-2002 04:45 PM

Who cares???????
 
I mean, really, who really cares? If we NEVER do anything with another org, who cares? If we do EVERYTHING as NPHC, who cares? ARE WE SERVING THE COMMUNITY? I swear, we can get so wrapped up in the silliest things. I think that OOOOWee is cute, that's just cute. Now, can I IMAGINE it? Nope, can't say that I can. I'm not saying that we shouldn't cooperatively work together, I'm just saying I don't see what the big deal is. I do think that we should share best practices, but that's with anything (nonprofits, corporations, community org, etc.). I've never seen McDonald's and Burger King do a joint effort in anything. So what? :confused:

In response to the question about what good is the NPHC (my paraphrase), since I'm young in AKA years, I can't say I see a purpose as of yet. But that's cuz I honestly don't know what the purpose of the NPHC is. Unfortunately, I can't say that I care. Whether or not it's good for something is unimportant to me, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. will still exist, and we will STILL be SUPREME in service to all mankind. Now, if someone would like to enlighten me, I'm all ears. And I mean that.

SwampThing, you got me rollin' over here. LMAO! And yes, Pretty Nasty was FUNNY!!! :D

AKA2D '91 03-20-2002 05:22 PM

LMAO!

I agree with my Soror!

As the NPHC rep for my chapter, I am trying to comprehend exactly what the purpose is. :confused:

So far, all I've seen are a FEW people ONLY gathering...:confused:



LMAO@ WHO cares, but you're right!

Sexy Mocha 03-20-2002 05:31 PM

Re: Who cares???????
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08
I mean, really, who really cares?
My sentiments exactly Soror!

I mean if you're all for different orgs. co-sponsoring programs then more power to you. If not......then more power to you.

What's funny to me is the creative names people are coming up with.

Also, the Burger King/McDonald comparison is right on point. We would all be trippin' if we saw Grimace and Ronald hanging out at the Big Kid's Club doing a commercial for the new McWhopper.

Opinions are like @ssholes...everybody has one

TRUE ZETA 03-20-2002 06:10 PM

here it is!!!!
 
Usually when two orgs get together, its for monetary or convenience purposes only. Most of us know that.

I would not throw a party with the AKAs or Ques..why because we usually kept our money in house meaning..ZETA AND SIGMA. So, if those chapters want to throw parties with other BGLOs then its their perogative.

Also, the purpose of the NPHC is to prevent stupid threads like this one and to acknowledge that we all have the same purpose yet different letters and colors.

PrettyKitty 03-20-2002 06:12 PM

Well that is truly, unfortunate that you don't know the purpose given your organization was a charter member.

I can't speak for other council's but the NOVA NPHC is a very active bunch, having happy hours, planning parties, and all other kinds of events together....but perhaps we are an anomaly...perhaps no other nphc council is living up to the purpose and ideals...but somehow I find that hard to believe...

It is through perceived differences that we become divided...through unity of thought and action the many can do GREAT THINGS. More (wo)man-power never hurt nebody...but let me stop wasting my precious typing energy and go back to the real issues out there...

AKA2D '91 03-20-2002 06:24 PM

STILL WHO CARES!
 
On paper, yes, the NPHC is about unifying the organizations, but in practice what REALLY is going on? :confused: From where I sit, not a doggone thing. The trickle down effect has not trickled down to the masses.

Therefore, my one and only concern is fulfilling and exceeding my requirements as an active member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, Incorporated. One requirement is to meet monthly with the NPHC and report to my chapter. The sad thing is, I have NOTHING to report.


:eek:

Swamp Thang 03-20-2002 06:27 PM

true Zeta
 
why does the thread have to be 'stupid'?

This is Greek Chat correct... i put the thread, "Non Traditional Greek Alliances for party/Week purposes".. out there becaue I wanted to see if these DUAL FRAT/SORORITY parties have been going on elsewhere and to get some CHAT going on about them.

There have been some interesting points made.. I appreiciate them all.

I GUESS THESE JAWNT PARTIES HAVE BEEN GOING ON AROUND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY FOR A MINUTE AND NOW, WE ARE JUST SEEING IT IN THE FORM OF "BLUE ICE WEEK" IN BIRMINGHAM.

From the responces, I take it that these joint parties have been going on around different parts of the country for a minute and now, we are just seeing it in the form of "Blue Ice Week" in Birmingham..

we as ORGS can DO WHATEVER WE want to do... together.. or separately.. We've, as Groups, have ALWAYS done community service TOGETHER... But Man... It's trivial in a way.. but not trivial in a way that when it comes to the things/traits that distinguish each org... that we keep certain things SEPARATE... (just one MiD School QUES opinions).. I mean.. if we all want to be one.. then why not become: OMEGAPSIPHIBETASIGMAGAMMARHO--- (you get the rest)

>_O_< The QUES... the Frat that just keeps on appearing on ya USPS Heritage Stamps.. currently showing "Langston Hughes".. who replaced "Roy Wilkens"..
THE QUES... simply the best.. Y'all MUSSUH FORGOT !!!

Sexy Mocha 03-20-2002 06:31 PM

It's not that serious people.....
 
I find a nice hug to be very therapeutic during rough times...so this buds for anyone who finds themselves getting a bit *tight because of this thread.........

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/pftroest.gif

It's going to be alright...


*tight: angry, upset, annoyed, agitated

allsmiles_22 03-20-2002 07:33 PM

A party maybe......
 
I see nothing wrong with two organizations sponsoring a party or other fundraisers together. However when it comes to programs, I don't see the need for commingling. The point in having a (whatever org) week is to carryout the objectives/national goals of that organization. Now if I've got 5 areas that I want to stress, I want all five days to present each one and not three days for my org and the other two days for the next org. There are so many weeks during the school year in which everyone can have their own week (if they are scheduling right) by themselves. If orgs want to get together and do something collectively then get together and do a NPHC Greek Week. Come up with programs/events as one body under NPHC. This is where the unity concept comes into play. I don't think the idea-“doing your own thing”-equates to not being unified, but equates to using that time to showcase what your organization stands for and why it stands apart from the next one.

Diamond007 03-20-2002 08:58 PM

My line was drawn when several deltas disrespected a beautiful golden soror of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. My dear golden soror was asking for them to assist her in obtaining some punch. She did make it known that she has been a member of AKA for over 50 years in the manner that an AKA would. Only to be told that she needed to find her sorors to assist her followed by laughter. I was so upset!! Upon overhearing this, I ended my conversation and assisted my golden soror. She was alone at our alumni convention. Personally, I would assist anyone in needed. Not to mention an older lady. I say this because must we be so divided to this extreme? It has never been my experience to do any sorority activities with other sororities. Yet my best friend is a Delta and she was upset when I discussed what I hope is an isolated incident. We are separate yet we must all be mindful that we must be kind to our fellow man. I have to be old school because I have only recently (last couple of months) heard of events occurring united with the non-traditional greek frats/sororities. I saw a probate show with my sorors showing support of all the frats...I asked my soror if I was seeing the tape right...and I DID...... but it seemed very strange....

:eek:

SweetestDiva 03-20-2002 09:44 PM

Okay, I'm very much a neo, and I thought this was common behavior. We've had a "Diamonds & Pearls" party with the Kappas, Deltas & Alphas commonly have a "Jungle Jam" (elephants and apes), the SGRhos and Sigmas had a "Blue Beatdown" or something like that. And of course we've had an "Ivies & Ice" formal with frat.

Now to my knowledge, with the exception of the traditional connections, these events are planned because of scheduling conflicts. Each chapter has 2 NPHC delegates. Say AKAs want a party on this coming Friday and the Sigmas do too, it's easier (and more profitable) to just throw it together. We have a pretty good relationship with all the fraternities on campus, so it's never a big deal. And our relationship with the other sororities is decent as well, so it's no big thing if the Deltas and Alphas have a party together.. we'll still be there in full effect. ;)

Now a whole WEEK together??? That's a whole 'nother story. I ain't NEVA heard of/seen that and I think it's ridiculous. When Skee-Week comes around, that's OUR time, and I'll be doggone if we're about to share it with somebody else! :eek: We might have a co-sponsored event (for instance, church on Sunday with the Deltas or SGRhos, etc), but never EVERY SINGLE DAY. I think that's a bit much.

Ideal08 03-20-2002 10:02 PM

See, this is what I'm sayin...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
Well that is truly, unfortunate that you don't know the purpose given your organization was a charter member.

I can't speak for other council's but the NOVA NPHC is a very active bunch, having happy hours, planning parties, and all other kinds of events together....but perhaps we are an anomaly...perhaps no other nphc council is living up to the purpose and ideals...but somehow I find that hard to believe...

It is through perceived differences that we become divided...through unity of thought and action the many can do GREAT THINGS. More (wo)man-power never hurt nebody...but let me stop wasting my precious typing energy and go back to the real issues out there...

Can we talk or can we talk? Thanks for telling me that tidbit of history about my org. :rolleyes: But you have YET to tell the purpose of the NPHC. Yeah, your NPHC chapter is active, cool. What's the purpose? Now, I can find it myself, but I thought that was the purpose of this board. If we can't even cooperatively TEACH one another on a chat board, without throwing around history (somehow, I didn't take that in a positive light), how exactly can we co-sponsor an event?? And for the record, I'm not upset, so please don't misread my tone. I'm just sayin. If we gon' talk, let's talk.

PrettyKitty 03-21-2002 11:13 AM

Re: See, this is what I'm sayin...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ideal08


Can we talk or can we talk? Thanks for telling me that tidbit of history about my org. :rolleyes: But you have YET to tell the purpose of the NPHC. Yeah, your NPHC chapter is active, cool. What's the purpose? Now, I can find it myself, but I thought that was the purpose of this board. If we can't even cooperatively TEACH one another on a chat board, without throwing around history (somehow, I didn't take that in a positive light), how exactly can we co-sponsor an event?? And for the record, I'm not upset, so please don't misread my tone. I'm just sayin. If we gon' talk, let's talk.

If we spent this much time working on the embetterment of the black community then perhaps we would be somewhere as a people :rolleyes: Honestly, I started to post to tell you that you should have learned that during your process, but then I realized, maybe you didn't...maybe the NPHC wasn't stressed for you when you became an AKA...but hey I am just guessing. I realized that shortly thereafter my PLEDGE process that some other greeks did not learn as much about the NPHC or other organizations. I believe it is through knowledge comes understanding and sometimes respect. If you don't understand or respect each other, how can you respect the NPHC? How can you want to do anything joint with anyone else if it's always all about your organization or chapter? This is not just about one individual organization or two...this is about Black people's lack of respect for each other(and sometimes self) in general.

Yes, this is the first time I have heard of organizations purposely sharing a whole week together...but hey, I am not going to knock them. If they have found a good method of unity and mutual respect for each other than so be it. I say that it is a good thing.

We can still be different and share things together. I am nothing like my blood brother(we have fought and argued on many occasions), but when push comes to shove, when we need each other, we are there for one another, and we work together positively, not to mention we don't look a whole lot different from one another.

Maybe it is through perceived differences and divisions that gives some people strength and power, but imo you can celebrate diversity and be individual while joining forces for a common goal.....the betterment of our community. You can't tell me that 2 million people working together is better than 100,000 or 170,000, or 190,000.....b/c I did the math.

It is unfortunate that so many feel like the NPHC serves no purpose...but then why not roll up your sleeves and make it serve a purpose for you. In the words of a Que friend of mind, "Make it Happen!" Why continue to complain about what it hasn't done? If you (all) don't make it happen, who will?


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