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DeltaBetaBaby 10-31-2014 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2298284)
^^^ Are you angry with me for some reason unknown to me? You deleted your previous post in which you qfp'ed me. You have recently commented negatively on other posts I've made. I'm just putting it out there, because I'd sure like to know what if anything I've done to draw your scrutiny, your scorn, and your ire.
Nope, nothing personal, I just disagree with your opinion on this situation.

DrPhil 10-31-2014 05:17 PM
Re: OPhiAGinger's post

Also known as "take that, you racist-Halloween-costume crybabies!!!"

ETA: We already know there's often more than meets the eye and things aren't always what they seem. This thread is just bad timing considering the annual issues with horribly themed Halloween costumes and the resulting GC Race Wars (the most recent was deleted). A predominantly white audience marveling over this is a huge eye roller.

LaneSig 10-31-2014 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2298161)
At the same time, I find it amusing when white people are celebrated for "handling it well".

Anyway, MEChA should do a campus-wide event instead of passionately handling this case-by-case. They don't have enough background information to confront people in this manner. As the woman who answered the door (it sounded fun inside the sorority house) stated, there was more to the story for the costumes. I am glad the woman who answered the door seemed familiar with the issue of insensitive costumes and assured MEChA that her chapter does not partake in such nonsense. I hope they really don't.

LOL @ all 3 of them being a bit out of breath and uncomfortable. That could've gone downhill quickly. The woman from MEChA talked over the woman at the door a few times. Not a good look. Hopefully MEChA learned from this experience.
And that's what people are complimenting the young lady on doing: taking a situation that could have gone downhill and handling it like a mature adult. She didn't downplay their concerns or blow them off. She addressed the issue.

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2298280)
It isn't the intent but this thread is essentially a white people vindication thread.

"Take that, you racist-Halloween-costume crybabies!!!"

People who don't normally comment in threads with mentions of race, and certainly not the Halloween costume threads, are in this thread doing jumping jacks. Interesting.
Nobody's doing jumping jacks or suggesting that the Tri Delta member be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. They were just saying that she handled it well.

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2298283)
I don't even understand what we're celebrating in this thread. A white woman said something articulate about race?
Again, nobody's putting out streamers and balloons. They just said that the young lady handled what could have turned into a bad situation nicely.

DrPhil 10-31-2014 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2298304)
And that's what people are complimenting the young lady on doing: taking a situation that could have gone downhill and handling it like a mature adult. She didn't downplay their concerns or blow them off. She addressed the issue.
That white woman isn't the only reason that interaction didn't go downhill. This isn't a "white person saves the day".

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Originally Posted by LaneSig
Nobody's doing jumping jacks or suggesting that the Tri Delta member be nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. They were just saying that she handled it well.
I read jumping jacks. I think people are impressed by that white woman's demeanor, her explanation of the circumstances, and even have the audacity to propose this white woman outsmarted this Hispanic student organization by requesting to keep their poster.

White people: Outsmarting presumptuous, emotional, angry racial and ethnic minorities for centuries and counting.

LaneSig 10-31-2014 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2298308)
That white woman isn't the only reason that interaction didn't go downhill. This isn't a "white person saves the day".

Well, the only person I see being confronted at the door happens to be white. So that's the only person we can compliment.


I read jumping jacks. I think people are impressed by that white woman's demeanor, her explanation of the circumstances, and even have the audacity to propose this white woman outsmarted this student organization by requesting to keep their poster.

The person who suggested that the member outsmarted the student organization was wrong on that aspect. I saw a video where the student offered the poster to the young lady and she accepted it.

White people: Outsmarting presumptuous, emotional, angry racial and ethnic minorities for centuries and counting.
And, you just answered your question from earlier about why people who don't generally reply in threads that have any racial tones/aspects. Because we know that no matter what we say, you and DeltaBetaBaby are going to come in, tell us that we're in the wrong no matter what our opinions are and just lump us all together under "white people". You're going to be insulting and demeaning to other posters all while telling us how insulting and demeaning our actions are.

Now, I'm going to be a good white person, drive my Ford Taurus home, sit in my Laz-Y-Boy lounger, eat a white bread and mayonnaise sandwich, and watch reruns of The Brady Bunch and dream of the old days. Hope I covered all of my white sins in this paragraph.

DrPhil 10-31-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2298309)
And, you just answered your question from earlier about why people who don't generally reply in threads that have any racial tones/aspects. Because we know that no matter what we say, you and DeltaBetaBaby are going to come in, tell us that we're in the wrong no matter what our opinions are and just lump us all together under "white people". You're going to be insulting and demeaning to other posters all while telling us how insulting and demeaning our actions are.
I don't care why people don't normally post in threads. I'm just amused that this is the thread that gets a celebratory response. Now spare me the conundrums of whiteness.

Kevin 10-31-2014 06:06 PM
The worst aspect is that it's a moving goalpost. This "I'm not a costume" bullshit is basically a new thing. I get blackface, but the rest of these folks really don't have much of an historically valid argument. At some point, it's just people being offended or feigning it in order to control the behavior of others.

What's next? Is someone going to accuse me of cultural appropriation and being offensive when I play in the Nutcracker this December? Should I think a Russian saying that's offensive has a strong argument and should be respected?

DeltaBetaBaby 10-31-2014 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2298309)
Because we know that no matter what we say, you and DeltaBetaBaby are going to come in, tell us that we're in the wrong no matter what our opinions are and just lump us all together under "white people".
Are you under the impression that I'm not a white person? If I thought all white people were always wrong about everything related to race, well, that would present me with quite the logical conundrum.

LaneSig 10-31-2014 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2298320)
Are you under the impression that I'm not a white person? If I thought all white people were always wrong about everything related to race, well, that would present me with quite the logical conundrum.
My comments about your recent postings are about your actions, not any particular ethnicity you identify with.

pinksequins 10-31-2014 08:27 PM
I am not seeing any celebrating. A young woman behaved courteously in a provocative situation. The same compliments about behaving civily and tactfully would have been delivered had it been any ethnic or racial group where she or he was ambushed by media trying to elicit a reaction. I am impressed by poise and composure by anyone!

DrPhil 10-31-2014 08:34 PM
I see backpedaling by the people in this thread.

Perhaps DBB and I would have responded different if this thread contained some acknowledgement of the racial undertones that sparked the Hispanic student organization's interest in confronting the sorority, even if the Hispanic student organization was wrong in this instance. The absence of that acknowledgement is odd and results in "angry minorities--calm and poised majority saves the day".

pinksequins 10-31-2014 08:45 PM
By the young woman? Well, my personality undoubtedly influences my perspective. As the door answerer, it would take every nerve not to call out obnoxious behavior. Since I would be biting my tongue so hard that it would have permanent teeth marks, I see someone who is pretty calm and collected. She has a trait that does not come easily to me. So that's the basis for my perspective. : )

Nanners52674 10-31-2014 10:19 PM
Idk how we got to this point, but I never intended thus thread to have to do with race. The topic in the video was secondary to why I posted it. I posted it because I'm impressed that a young college woman was so composed when caught so completely off guard. It's not easy to stay graceful under pressure.

I'd have the exact same feelings if it was an anti-hazing group, or an anti-greek life group etc... Interesting how this became all about race.

DeltaBetaBaby 10-31-2014 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 2298323)
My comments about your recent postings are about your actions, not any particular ethnicity you identify with.
:D

thetalady 10-31-2014 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nanners52674 (Post 2298339)
Idk how we got to this point, but I never intended thus thread to have to do with race. The topic in the video was secondary to why I posted it. I posted it because I'm impressed that a young college woman was so composed when caught so completely off guard. It's not easy to stay graceful under pressure.

I'd have the exact same feelings if it was an anti-hazing group, or an anti-greek life group etc... Interesting how this became all about race.
Sorry, apparently we no longer have the right to be proud of a young Caucasian woman who handled a very difficult situation well.

Everything lately is being turned in a racial commentary. Don't you know that is ALL that matters? :rolleyes:


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