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CrimsonTide4 06-21-2002 03:41 PM

I finally saw this movie last week at the 50 cents show and it was 50 cents good but not OSCAR good.

I agree with what has been previously stated. Losing Isaiah was a much more solid performance for her. Hell she could have won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actress in Jungle Fever because her crackhead performance was all of that.

Monster's Ball's ending pissed me off because I just knew she was going to at least confront him about it and all they did was eat some ice cream.

I still have not seen Training Day but GOOD LORD, Denzel was MAGNIFICENT in John Q. He had me broke ALL THE WAY DOWN in that theater.

I can honestly say that Halle getting that Oscar was truly a pat on the head, a shoo fly, etc. type of award. It was deserved, belatedly though.

I know no one else liked BAPS but I did so they could have gave her an OSCAR for that movie as well.

TLAW 06-21-2002 04:14 PM

I have still not seen Monster's Ball, but reviews I have read and heard closely mirror responses on this board. Everybody seems to believe that it is not Oscar material. I think I'll agree.
I am in the minority, and I think that Halle is more looks than quality. I believe that we have much better actresses than she, and I do not think that she was deserving of an Oscar. However, the Academy figured it was time, and they had better make up for past slips and put out. I think Halle is just what they needed, and she was given this award as a balm.
I can also see why some people would think she has stripped her way to the top. Now, who really thinks she can float with Angela Basset, or Whoopi for instance? Now, as for Denzel, I must admit, he did rip it up in Training Day, and I have to give the brother his dues. Now that was definitely Oscar material, and I intend to rent it and watch it again.
I might be wrong, but lets be careful about who "they" pick to give Oscars to. Do not be surprised if more talented minority people get slighted in the near future. We might have wasted our "quota"...

By the way, who has seen "Eyes Wide Shut?" Can somebody give me the catch. Call me dumb, but I did not get what the mystery was.

Serenity 06-22-2002 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by TLAW
I have still not seen Monster's Ball, but reviews I have read and heard closely mirror responses on this board. Everybody seems to believe that it is not Oscar material. I think I'll agree.

Now, as for Denzel, I must admit, he did rip it up in Training Day, and I have to give the brother his dues. Now that was definitely Oscar material, and I intend to rent it and watch it again.

By the way, who has seen "Eyes Wide Shut?" Can somebody give me the catch. Call me dumb, but I did not get what the mystery was.

After Halle won the Oscar I was going to see the movie, but much of the response I got from people who saw it was pretty much the same as on here. I still think I will rent it though because I am curious. I'll post my comments about it afterwards.

CT4, "Training Day" is a must see. I gotta admit though, for parts of the movie I was like, "Denzel? Not you Denzel..." because he usually plays upstanding characters. But his performance is outstanding and totally believable.

TLAW, "Eyes Wide Shut"...can't help you there. I was :confused: What was all the hoopla about for this movie? :rolleyes:

TLAW 06-22-2002 04:39 AM

Serenity, it was supposed to be a real thriller, so I must be slow...

AKA2D '91 06-22-2002 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Serenity


TLAW, "Eyes Wide Shut"...can't help you there. I was :confused: What was all the hoopla about for this movie? :rolleyes:

Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman playing out I guess their fantasies on screen. :rolleyes: I do not know. I did not see the movie. :confused:

CT4: I didn't realize $1.00, let alone 50 cents movie theaters still existed. :o :eek: That's where I need to be.

mccoyred 06-24-2002 12:39 PM

I kept getting lost and eventually fell asleep. :yawn:

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Originally posted by Serenity


TLAW, "Eyes Wide Shut"...can't help you there. I was :confused: What was all the hoopla about for this movie? :rolleyes:


PrincessELG 06-27-2002 07:21 PM

Secret Porn Movie
 
I just recently watched Monster's Ball and I was in fact embarrased as I watched Halle basically screw Billy Bob. I know that it was suppsed to show raw and animal passion but dammmm all that was unecessary. I have seen plenty of movies where they cut away. Seeing Halle like that was liking being a voyeur into some secret porn movie. I know Eric had a little bit more to say than that if I saw my wife getting it from the back and rolling around buck naked, even if there was no "intercourse" that is still to much. And I agree with what was said before the best actresses not to metion black actresses didn't take their clothes off. But I guess that is why they didn't win Oscar's. I even watched the scene with her commentary and she was saying things like oh when i watch this scene I don't associate that being me, she said it was like looking at another person and saying wow look what she is doing. Well I say to her "Halle how do you think we feel". I have always liked Halle but Monster's Ball left a bad taste in my mouth.

Bamboozled 06-29-2002 11:04 AM

Two Thumbs Down
 
Ok, y'all ... I am totally confused, baffled and flabbergasted. I just got done watching Monster's Ball and I had to come post. How in the hell did this movie win ANY Oscar nominations, let alone Halle winning for best actress? :confused: I'll admit, I've never been a Halle fan. I think she's an extremely beautiful woman, but a medicore actress at best. She's never been able to quite convince me of any role she's played (except for Jungle Fever - she was a believable crackhead). Halle just has too much fluff and not enough grit. Yeah, thats it ... she's just not gritty enough. Shoot, Mos Def and Puffy gave better performances than she did :eek:.

While it was past time to give us our due, I think the Academy paid us a huge disservice by choosing Halle as their token. We have much, much better actresses out there.

Does anyone know if this movie was supposed to take place in present day?

darling1 08-03-2002 11:30 PM

i finally saw it..........
 
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Originally posted by prayerfull
We bought the DVD last night and watched it. I'm trippin' off the fact that Halle won an Oscar for this performance. Yes, she did very well. However, I'm not seeing anything that was just so amazingly spectacular about it. It was a good movie - a bit odd at the end. I'm also trippin' off the fact that that dude went out and gave 'ole girl a car and named his gas station after her after one little freak session. I was looking for more in the ending...perhaps Halle's character becoming a bit more mentally stable with her "new" life.

i finally saw the movie with my husband last night. over all i thought it was a good movie. i like intense movies and this by far was one of the most intense films i have seen. i liked the fact that there was less dialogue than normal so you really had to watch the film. i see how and why eric benet could have been upset with halle over the sex scenes. the first one was really a bit much but contrary to the opinions of others that i have read, it was not a random scene.

to those of you that saw it did you all catch how he was eating the chocolate ice cream with a white plastic spoon and how leticia was written in black against a white background...serious innuendo!!! i took it as 'ol boy having a serious thing for black women in general but because of his upbringing, he couldn't live out he true desires; aside from the fact that he was just COMPLETELY TURNED OUT:eek: .

i can see how some folks may feel that this was a stereotypical movie in which the white man rescues the black woman, but the way the movie was carried out, everything was all circumstantial (sp?)

i found the ending to be lacking and i could quite understand her facial expressions. was she angry?? was she going to kill him?? i was hoping that she would go off on him or something but it was kinda left out there dangling. the dialogue b/w the 2 would have been extremely important, i think.

'splitting the oak???':eek: , i personally would have killed the old man.

oneinamillion 08-04-2002 11:08 AM

You no me!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91


Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman playing out I guess their fantasies on screen. :rolleyes: I do not know. I did not see the movie. :confused:

CT4: I didn't realize $1.00, let alone 50 cents movie theaters still existed. :o :eek: That's where I need to be.

AKA2D'91 when I saw the movie I was like:eek: :eek: :eek: . This film was directed by the odd Stanley Kubrick, who has a history of directing erotic, mind puzzling films. He did this film call "a clockwork orange" I have so much respect as a memberfriend :D :D for this sight that I won't even tell you what it was about: it came out in the late '70s or '80s and was plain stupid (especially for that time)

oneinamillion 08-04-2002 11:14 AM

Re: Secret Porn Movie
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrincessELG
I just recently watched Monster's Ball and I was in fact embarrased as I watched Halle basically screw Billy Bob. I know that it was suppsed to show raw and animal passion but dammmm all that was unecessary. I have seen plenty of movies where they cut away. Seeing Halle like that was liking being a voyeur into some secret porn movie. I know Eric had a little bit more to say than that if I saw my wife getting it from the back and rolling around buck naked, even if there was no "intercourse" that is still to much. And I agree with what was said before the best actresses not to metion black actresses didn't take their clothes off. But I guess that is why they didn't win Oscar's. I even watched the scene with her commentary and she was saying things like oh when i watch this scene I don't associate that being me, she said it was like looking at another person and saying wow look what she is doing. Well I say to her "Halle how do you think we feel". I have always liked Halle but Monster's Ball left a bad taste in my mouth.

Princess don't feel bad my husband and I went to see it and I was embarass because of the white people in the theator....I was embarrass only in the scene were she was begging for it; I hate to see Afric.-Amer. women begg for anything especially to an Anglo-Saxon. It's nothing wrong with her making passionate love to him it's just how it all took its essence. Not prejudice just real

CrimsonTide4 11-10-2002 09:02 AM

I finally saw Training Day last night on DVD no less

*good performance
*still would rather that he got the Oscar for John Q over the corrupt azz cop in Training Day
*he wore me out with the overuse of N****

I was blown away by just how corrupt GOOD DENZEL was but he played the role magnificently.

Afrochic 11-10-2002 02:53 PM

I saw a little of Monster's Ball a few months ago. I wasn't impressed with it at all, not even a little. Actually I was shocked that Halle felt the need to go to the "extreme" with that part. You mean to say in all the work she's done, she had to do porn in order to win an award? :rolleyes: I just shook my head and thought is this the only way we can be recognized? I think Cinemax is supposed to show other scenes in the movie never before seen in the U.S. IMO, I don't really think she's a great actress, but I'm happy she got an award nonetheless.

Now I saw Training Day a few months ago as well. That part was so unlike the regular Denzel. When he got to cursing I was like :eek: Out of all his movies I think that was one I liked the least, but it showed how versatile his acting abilities are (like we didn't know.) He looked sexy in that movie especially the scene where he left Macy Gray's house and the neighborhood folks started shooting and he had both guns blazing....ok I'm rambling. I don't care what the role is, Denzel can tear it up though. He was excellent in John Q. Now his acting in that movie was an award winning performance. Kimberly Elise did a good job as well because her acting wasn't so great in Set It Off. She has really matured. When an actor/actress can make you feel an emotion, that's the sign of a good performer.


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