I agree totally with N4L. Explain to her that everything happens for a reason. She has to understand that her steps are ordered, and there is a reason that she didn't make line. She has to trust GOD's plan, not her own.

I thought the same thing. Maybe a private email would've been better.

Just wondering, was "gyrl" a typo?

Whoa...Spooky. I wondered the same thing.

no offense intended to those that have already crossed...but it is very easy to sit here and tell monique to tell her friend to suck it up and press on http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif from the other side...if it were you...would you be thrilled by someone telling you to suck it up and press on two days after having your heart ripped out...i have never applied for membership, therefore i have never been rejected, so i don't personally know how it feels...but i have witnessed what rejection from a sorority can do to people via associates and she may indeed be in a minor state of depression for a while...but that doesn't mean she needs psych help...it means she is human and that it is something she REALLY wanted badly...and it is not our place to judge her reasons for wanting it...if/when i ever apply and if/when i am rejected i expect that if not depression...all out war might errupt...no joke http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif but i hope she does not leave school over this because life is MUCH bigger than being in a sorority and sisterhood CAN be found elsewhere... http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif and it doesn't take being in a sorority to be an asset to your community...a leader in your own right...or to develop into the woman you are ultimately meant to be...i wish her much success in her future endeavors...

peace and blessings...

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[This message has been edited by VctoriasSecrt (edited May 05, 2001).]

what does it mean "didnt make line", ive heard that a lot but i havent figured out the meaning

You are sorely mistaken. We say these things because application to membership into a Sorority is a serious matter... You need to have done some things before you speak of one's circumstances. Because, you will never know until you walk a mile in my moccasins...

We greeks KNOW our membership intake processes, WELL. And we know the reasons one is rejected. And usually it is because of irrefutable circumstances, such as low GPA or under 12 units prior and during application submission...

Then there are SEVERAL "checks and balances" made between the local chapter and its National officers...

Moreover if you have ever in your life attended a Rush, that "in between time" and actual notification, believe me--it is being EXTENSIVELY used...

You need to perform a "SEARCH" on this board or any of the National Pan Hellenic Council affiliate's boards.

But I think you are interested in an National Pan Hellenic Conference Sorority, so you have to go to the college you wish to apply and look at their greek life board if the school has one.

Also, PenguinTrax http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif has set up an excellent "Rush" http://www.greekchat.com/forums/cgi-...000&LastLogin= board here in Greekchat. I highly recommend that you go there and you may find your answers to all the questions you seek...

i was not refuting your PROCESS...you cannot say that it is inappropriate for someone to act a certain way after being rejected...only that person knows how much they wanted it...and ONLY that person knows how much it hurt THEM...i have nothing against the process...i never even said she deserved a reason for being rejected...nor do i believe she does...i believe my exact words were...it is easy to say that from the other side...once you have already made it...those that have only been in for a while...in my experience SEEM to forget all the pains of getting there and are quick to tell someone else that is rejected to suck it up and press on...(i like that borrowed term ya'll use)...i'll be damned if after finding out my friend had been rejected that i tell her to suck it up and press on...i saw the pain in her face and it was real...maybe you misunderstood what i said...maybe you didn't and just extended your comment...who knows...but your process is your right...being hurt is a rejects right...

peace and blessings...



[This message has been edited by VctoriasSecrt (edited May 07, 2001).]

I bet if you got her a Kate Spade Sam bag (black) and some Bebe Sorority pants, she'd feel 100 times better! All the best!

Hi Coopchick and welcome to GreekChat http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
Thank you for contributing; we are always glad to have new members. I did want to mention, however, that your post came off as sounding a bit sarcastic. I am sure that you did not intend for it to sound this way and I am quite aware of how sentiments can become distorted on a post, but I just wanted to call it to your attention for future reference http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Have a great day!

[This message has been edited by KillarneyRose (edited May 29, 2001).]

We are selective Fraternities and Sororities. As such we choose who will join our membership. Some applicants are accepted, others are rejected. Those who are rejected may have an immense desire to become a member. However that will never supercede the qualifications for becoming a member in the NPHC organizations.

What ABSOLUTELY DO YOU KNOW ABOUT all of HBGLO's membership intake process' that would warrant one feeling unaccepted? Beware! Be leery with your statements here... There are National Officers from the NPHC and NPHC affiliates surveying this board... This is not even CLOSE to a JOKE!!!

Yes, being rejected hurts. Yes, our statements may seem hurtful to an outsider. But to put it bluntly, those rejects choose to feel hurt--and especially around US. They were rejected for a reason. Basically, they did not meet our criteria and we must reject them. SO WHAT? You think we should feel sorry for them? Okay. Yeah, I feel sorry for them. They are a sorry bunch of rejects!!!

Yes, I intend to be mean... But there are expectations, qualifications and standards which are crystal clear. But, I guess you want us to deal in mediocrity? Accept half assed people into our organizations? Okay. I get you. Everybody already can tell how YOU feel about the NPHC. How come it seems that you ONLY want to CRITICIZE the historically Black Greek Lettered Organizations?

I wonder? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif

Sure she can be hurt.. dropping out of school and not eating is throwing away her life. Of course, I can only guess how much it hurt, but if she is going to throw away her life because of this, she does need professional help... and no, thats not a bad thing, it's to help her get her life back in order.

I totally agree. I mean if you're in college your primary focus should be to obtain a degree all that other stuff can wait. Anyone with a 3.7 gpa who is willing to drop out of school simply because she did not get selected for membership into a sorority most definately has some issues!

I totally agree! Maybe this girl did not make line b/c they felt she was not ready emotionally for such a challenge. If she is willing to throw away her life because of this challenge, then how would she have been able to function had she made line? She needs to remember that she is in college to get an education--everything is secondary. She has some deeper issues within herself that she needs to resolve, and later after she examines why she feels/thinks this way she could try again (lots of people don't make it the first time!).

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It's unfortunate. I agree with VS on this matter. It's easy to say when you have your LETTERS. I'm sure apart of her wanting to leave school is embarassment. Everyone knew she was going for membership, noe everyone knows she wasn't excepted. Some non-members might even know why, yet she doesn't.
I'm Old School. Graduated in '87. I seen this happen too many times. Yes it does effect everyone differently.
If possible tell her to email me.