I'm trying to figure out what tItle IX has to do wIth anything.

Not sure I saw that thread before. I know the name of the school didn't ring any bells at all. Thanks.

I figured you're a student there, and I'm not saying that you or anyone else are just making things up. But between this thread and the one amIblue cited, all there is is one article describing a complaint in a lawsuit and a number of people passing on what they've heard from other people.

I guess I've just been practicing law long enough to be hesitant to take stories like this from sources such as the ones we have so far at face value.

One of the girls I pledged with years and years ago had transferred from Young Harris. She had pledged a local there and told us stories of how she was personally treated and their hazing. We were stunned and horrified. She ended up as our risk management chair and was very against hazing. Our chapter did not haze, but having someone who made sure that message was given to the incoming freshman (who often wanted to be hazed because of their high school experiences) helped make sure it didn't get introduced to the chapter.

I thought Phi Mu was going to colonize at Young Harris. Are they the NPC who backed out or is their intent to continue to colonize?

So maybe all the tent talk stories in that thread I started aren't made up... Some of those were right out of that thread...

Why in the world would anyone subject themselves to that kind of abuse?

I wasn't trying to say this was the gospel truth, just that it had been discussed before.

I wonder if maybe other people (reporters, friends, alumni?) try to hide it/deny what's happening, and that's why there isn't much information on it? Just a guess.

If this is all true, it's disgusting. :(

That's what I always wonder! I'd like to think that if anyone ever tried to haze me, I'd walk out and never look back.

I imagine group mentality and the desire to belong or to be popular often overtake common sense and rational thinking. It is also said that the human brain is not fully developed until our early 20's, so there is something to be said for poor decision making being the result of an underdeveloped brain. Also, those who join GLO's tend to be people who believe in conforming to group ideals (which is great if we're talking about people working in a team toward a common goal, but extremely dangerous if everyone is jumping off a bridge so you decide it is a good idea because everyone else is going for it), so people are trying to conform and please. This is a terrible, tragic situation and I hope that the students who have been harmed will heal.

Well from personal experience, I was seeking acceptance and a family at school and also a way to prove that I was 'strong'.

Well, Zeta Phi Beta (NPHC) is at YHC, is that the sorority that you were talking about? http://www.yhc.edu/student-life/camp...greek/chapters

Carnation was the one who initially said it, but I think she is correct. I don't think it was an NPHC, but an NPC that considered colonization.

It all sounds like the plot of a B-movie you'd see at the drive-in. Small town with its dirty secret, powers look the other way and anyone who speaks up pays a bad price. Hope everyone who has really suffered from this finds a way to heal. Referring back to the earlier thread about the school, I keep remembering the comment about the guy who has deeply buried some of his fraternity experiences. Shouldn't be that way. Really, the lid needs to be blown off this thing and the YH Greek system shut down.

That synopsis could be Penn State or Steubenville.

Oh, I know. And I know, too, that this may all be (sadly) true. Where there's smoke and all that. Some of the GCers passing on these stories are people I trust not to just spread gossip on something like this. I just would like to see more on it, that's all.

It is probably the ugly truth about a lot of little places throughout this country...definitely can't judge a book by its cover.