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KKGAlumDGMom 11-30-2012 01:18 PM

This is particularly sad to me as my chapter (while I was an active) was involved with the installation of the Kappa chapter at Trinity back in the early 80's.

33girl 11-30-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 2191574)
The thing is, they are not trying to reform the campus culture. Instead they are trying to kill one of the more visible examples of the drinking culture, but I doubt all the people going to the parties are Greek.

Exactly. They think "ha ha, the rich kids can't have their fun now" when the rich kids will go right on having their fun - and will probably have even more fun since they will (the majority of them) no longer have to pay national dues. If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.

I also LOL every time they think that going co-ed is the solution. Does anyone remember in Pledged how she was talking about a co-ed fraternity that drank its asses off and were all having sex with each other? But of course, she was OK with it because they didn't have evil exclusionary membership selection practices like a sorority. Eric Cartman sums it up:

http://gameboom.net/sites/gameboom.n...an-hippies.png

DeltaBetaBaby 11-30-2012 02:17 PM

Well, okay, what CAN the administration do to change campus culture? Young adults living alone for the first time are gonna experiment, can that ever be changed?

Psi U MC Vito 11-30-2012 02:18 PM

And it's blindingly obvious what they are trying to do. It isn't even a reform of the Greek system because the three changes are arbitrary. While there is a large difference in amounts of Fraternities and Sororities, there are organizations for both genders. Perhaps trying to increase the amount of organizations of both types if there are large groups of people who cannot get into one or another. I can see the point about pledging, but if they require an open NME process that for the national orgs fits national policy they can nip the bud on both hazing and exclusivity. And the 3.2 GPA seems arbitrary to me. I can definitely agree requiring the organizations to meet the All Campus GPA, but the 3.2 seems like a pretty high arbitrary number to meet. But like I said, they don't want to reform the system, they want to get rid of it. Maybe they realize that an outright ban won't work and are trying to backdoor it.

ETA: For the above, there are things they can do. One thing that comes to mind is the Minerva House system at Union College. Which oddly enough doesn't seem to cut on the amount of drinking.And honestly, they are a private school. They can boot particular problem children if they feel that it would make a difference.

ree-Xi 11-30-2012 02:50 PM

Nothing is going to change at Trinity. Enough people aren't in these groups that the changes won't affect the party scene on a major basis, and for those who are members, all that will be accomplished is that they don't have a formal name to label them.

Those who go there will just find other ways to get around the rules (just like the students at every other college or university). Heck, they even have a shuttle bus to the Hartford bars.

33girl 11-30-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2191594)
Well, okay, what CAN the administration do to change campus culture? Young adults living alone for the first time are gonna experiment, can that ever be changed?

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2191587)
If they want to reform the campus culture, they have to change the kinds of students they admit.

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glittergal1985 11-30-2012 06:33 PM

If they don't want to have a culture of privilege and elitism, then they should probably relocate the college out of the Northeast...

glittergal1985 11-30-2012 07:27 PM

That's not what I said. But if you look at it per-capita, this area is well known for having more than its share.

IUHoosiergirl88 11-30-2012 07:39 PM

Considering they say they same thing about Greeks at 90% of schools, elitism isn't just limited to the Northeast. Not sure where you're from, but I guarantee it's there too.

ASUADPi 11-30-2012 07:51 PM

Um, how can they force an NPC (Kappa Kappa Gamma) to go coed?

AGDee 11-30-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 2191642)
Um, how can they force an NPC (Kappa Kappa Gamma) to go coed?

They can't, but they don't have to recognize them as a student organization if they don't go co-ed. Which means, as others have said, they will drive the groups underground and won't have any control over them then.

TSteven 11-30-2012 09:27 PM

Similar to the GLOs at Harvard or Princeton (one of the Ivy schools) and at Santa Clara (maybe one or two other schools), why couldn’t the GLOs simply not be “officially” recognized by Trinity yet continue to be recognized by their HQ?

IUHoosiergirl88 11-30-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2191663)
Similar to the GLOs at Harvard or Princeton (one of the Ivy schools) and at Santa Clara (maybe one or two other schools), why couldn’t the GLOs simply not be “officially” recognized by Trinity yet continue to be recognized by their HQ?

This logically could happen, but (someone correct me if I'm wrong), not if they're coed

TSteven 11-30-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by IUHoosiergirl88 (Post 2191666)
This logically could happen, but (someone correct me if I'm wrong), not if they're coed

I agree. What I meant was that the chapters would remain single-sex GLOs and (perhaps with the exception of Delta Psi which is already co-ed) and no longer be officially recognized by the university. Yet the HQs would continue to recognize the chapters.

IUHoosiergirl88 11-30-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 2191671)
I agree. What I meant was that the chapters would remain single-sex GLOs and (perhaps with the exception of Delta Psi which is already co-ed) and no longer be officially recognized by the university. Yet the HQs would continue to recognize the chapters.

Gotcha--I misread and think that is probably the best route for all of them


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