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agzg 09-13-2012 08:41 PM

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Old_Row 09-13-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gracemom (Post 2178062)
ZTABest- So gratuitously mean. And what really floored me was that you had posted two months ago worried about a sister who was suicidal and depressed. So you post a mean-spirited post to someone who says she is down on herself and feeling rejected and tell them that they are "a self-absorbed bitch?"

You're not the only one-- it is possible to be kind and constructive in one's comments but there are way too many mean-spirited people in this forum (maybe insecure also?) who seem to delight in tearing down posters. (Fleurgirl, is the popcorn because you take some kind of enjoyment in seeing a girl who feels rejected and is down on herself be torn down further?)

Unbelievable. And shameful.

I think what she said is harsh and do not think she should have written it but did you read the negative things this poster wrote about real sororities in her original posts? I can understand why people would be upset about her attitude going into recruitment and thinking that she got the kind outcome she deserved. You seem to be very judgey yourself and only write when you can point out how someone is being mean and I would expect a lot more out of someone who is old enough to be a mom.

pinapple 09-13-2012 09:09 PM

First of all, I am sorry your recruitment has not worked out the way you wanted it too. I am in no way justifying what has been said to you on this thread, but there is not very much empathy for PNMs who go through recruitement with a very closed mind, especially one that is a sophomore with out a stellar GPA. A quick search produced an average Panhellenic GPA at the University of Michigan of 3.4. So what does that mean for you? That means if your GPA was lower than 3.4, you would be considered a liability to any chapter that values academics and that is all of them. Chapters are looking for members to better their chapter or sisterhood and academics are a huge part of that. A low GPA tells the houses that you have not been focusing on your academics even when you did not have the distraction of Greek Life. They are only left to speculate that if you put Greek Life in the mix, your GPA would more than like go futher down, not up. Wearing letters on your chest does not grow your brain, improve your study skills, or empower your work ethic. You had a chapter that was willing to take a chance on you. You said no. The situation is what it is. I would tell you to put on your big girl panties, but you may want to go commando and put your combat boots on. This may be a hard pill to swallow but the bottom line is you opened the bottle and poured the watered.

DubaiSis 09-13-2012 09:30 PM

If you have not actually dropped out, I would consider this a lifeline and stick with it. You made some huge HUGE mistakes in preparation for rush, but you weren't penalized completely out of the game.

And regarding the beyond the pale comment, I would suggest she delete that post. And hopefully the qfps will do the same. We all saw this result coming and although we might agree, since we don't actually know this girl, I think it's in our most panhellenic behavior to give the rushee the benefit of the doubt. And yet, I can't help but think "I told you so."

But that being said, this was such an obvious result that I also can't help but think that this is just a troll out to ruffle feathers, which was wildly successful.

navane 09-13-2012 09:39 PM

Many of the other posters have made good points. Let me just add a "state the obvious" comment -- if you publicly announced that you only wanted to consider membership to 3 out of the 15 sororities, then it should come as no surprise that the bulk of the sororities cut you right off the bat. Why would they want to consider someone who very clearly was not interested?


.....Kelly :)

IrishLake 09-13-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fascination (Post 2178044)
As a freshman, I was a little too overwhelmed and decided rushing a sorority would be too much for me right off the bat. But now, as a sophomore,I will be living in an apartment with 3 other girls that are all juniors in alpha delta pi (ADpi). I don't know them, but they needed a 4th roommate and we met on the apartment's roommate assignment page online. They have convinced me that greek life is worth it, although they are not allowed to really talk to me about it. I know that sophomore year is the year that girls live in the house with their sisters, so will I be missing out on that? And if I would just live in the house as a junior instead, would it be weird to be living with all girls that are a year younger than me? I don't want to sound bad, but if I do join, I would probably only want to be in a top tier sorority, either tri-delta, alpha phi, or kappa kappa gamma.But do the top tiers generally not take sophomores? When I was a freshman, a lot of the frat guys in phi kappa psi and the sorority girls in tri-delta told me that I was really attractive and would definitely get one of the top tiers, but is this not the case since I am a sophomore?I have a cousin that was in alpha phi and graduated last year, so would I have a chance there?Other than that, I don't really have any connections or friendships with the top tiers. If anyone has any experience with greek life at U of M, please let me know! Thanks!

AND

I didn't rush as a freshman (I guess because I was feeling overwhelmed) and I really regret it. I would really like to pledge either tri-delt, alpha phi, or kappa kappa gamma, my top choice being tri-delt, but do they usually not take sophomores? As a freshman a lot of the girls in those sororities were interested in me, but now they have forgotten me and will they not really consider a sophomore as seriously? Right now, I am living in an apartment with three juniors that are in ADpi (although I am not really interested in ADpi), and I have a cousin that just graduated who was in alpha phi. She is going to write me a recommendation, but I don't think they consider cousins "legacies." Other than that, I don't really have any connections with any of the sororities. Also, I will be living in the house as a junior, and most of the pledges live there as sophomores, so I will be a year older than most of the girls. Do you think this will make me feel uncomfortable? Does anyone know anything about the three sororities I mentioned and how they deal with sophomores?

Gee, Sarah, I can't imagine why only one sorority asked you back after first round, but maybe it was because no one at the two-low-tier-to-be-considered-sorority had seen or heard about your GC postings. Or maybe you voiced these same sentiments to others on campus and word got back to the sororities. Maybe. (And, in case you haven't figured it out yet, some guys will say anything that they think you want to hear...)





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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2178074)
If you have not actually dropped out, I would consider this a lifeline and stick with it. You made some huge HUGE mistakes in preparation for rush, but you weren't penalized completely out of the game.

And regarding the beyond the pale comment, I would suggest she delete that post. And hopefully the qfps will do the same. We all saw this result coming and although we might agree, since we don't actually know this girl, I think it's in our most panhellenic behavior to give the rushee the benefit of the doubt. And yet, I can't help but think "I told you so."

But that being said, this was such an obvious result that I also can't help but think that this is just a troll out to ruffle feathers, which was wildly successful.

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Originally Posted by navane (Post 2178077)
Many of the other posters have made good points. Let me just add a "state the obvious" comment -- if you publicly announced that you only wanted to consider membership to 3 out of the 15 sororities, then it should come as no surprise that the bulk of the sororities cut you right off the bat. Why would they want to consider someone who very clearly was not interested?


.....Kelly :)

Yup. Sorry Girl, you did this to yourself.

Larkspur12 09-13-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2178074)
If you have not actually dropped out, I would consider this a lifeline and stick with it. You made some huge HUGE mistakes in preparation for rush

So, so true. I'm sorry that you're feeling bad about yourself and your recruitment experience. Bad attitude or not, it hurts to be rejected and I'm sorry you're feeling that way.

That said, I would be shocked if this were not a direct result of you posting so much identifying information about yourself across multiple internet forums which are viewed daily by many, many college students -- including, I'm sure, sorority women at Michigan.

I hope you find other ways to have a positive college experience. Michigan is a great school and you're lucky to be there. But I also really hope this makes you think twice about thinking you're "above" certain chapters. That kind of attitude will never serve you well.

ETA: If you haven't dropped out yet, I hope you stay in the process and give this chapter a fair shake.

IrishLake 09-13-2012 10:09 PM

This is a thread to remember and maybe even sticky.... what NOT to do! The interwebs is forEVAH!

thetalady 09-13-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gracemom (Post 2178062)
(Fleurgirl, is the popcorn because you take some kind of enjoyment in seeing a girl who feels rejected and is down on herself be torn down further?)

Gracemom, looks like you are new here, so maybe you are not familiar with our "lingo" or jokes here. Fleurgirl was not making a comment that she enjoys seeing another person hurting. "Getting popcorn" or a cocktail and "settling down on the couch" is just our way of watching an interesting thread from the sidelines, without getting involved in the conversation.

33girl 09-13-2012 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2178036)
That's really uncalled for.

I agree. Self-absorbed should have a hyphen in it.

APhi4Ever 09-13-2012 11:56 PM

I remember this poster. Glad someone QFP'd.

AnchorAlumna 09-14-2012 12:11 AM

Same post on CC.
I call troll.

adpiucf 09-14-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RKelly74 (Post 2178023)
My GPA was not the best freshman year, but it wasn't horrible either, and the sorority girls I talked to said they don't look at the academics that much; it's mostly about the friendships you make. There seemed to be hundred of girls rushing, so I don't know how the sororities could even know me or remember me enough to reject me at this point. I saw some girls that I knew from freshman year rushing the new potential members, so do you think if a couple girls didn't like me or something they told the rest of the sororities? What went wrong? Maybe I talked about something I shouldn't have during our conversations?

I think you told the sororities yourself; you just didn't know it. You posted personal information about yourself and your preferences on the internet, making it easy to ID you. Likely, Greeks from your school learned of these postings and could have cut you for your statements that you would only consider certain sororities. Additionally, you may have made similar statements to your roommates or other Greeks, and people do talk. Likely, this combination of factors accounted for such heavy cuts. You should be more careful in the future of how you conduct yourself online.

I know you are disappointed, but you advertised that you would only consider a couple of the sororities at your school, and I'm guessing word got back to everyone. I think it is very unlikely you will be successful if you try to re-rush at this school.

I don't know what your grades were, but with the statement that your grades weren't the best/yet weren't horrible, I'm guessing your GPA fell below the minimum standards required by each chapter. That, along with your upperclassman status, likely accounted for many early cuts. As a sophomore, you needed to come in with stellar grades and a strong positive reputation.

I'm guessing a combination of iffy grades, upperclass status, and your own gossiping led to these cuts.

That's my theory, anyway. I wasn't in membership selection at these chapters, so there is no way to know for sure.

BlueCarnation 09-14-2012 09:19 AM

Oh, so much to say...

First, unfortunately, I think many of us who read "RKelly"s last thread probably were thinking the same thing that ZTA was, but we just didn't write it. OP's original post was incredibly rude, self-centered, and offensive to many of us. I tried to chalk it up to her being an insecure 19ish year old, but to come back AGAIN and post the same thing? Wow.

Sarah/RKelly/OP, I can't say I'm surprised that you were only asked back to one house, and frankly, I'm very curious to know which one it was. I certainly hope it was not mine. If I somehow could have found out exactly who you were, I would've sent this entire thread to my chapter's recruitment chair. The Greek System at Michigan is much smaller than you think. Of course girls in any sorority are going to encourage you to rush--they would never tell you not to. And do you really think any guy has any say in who gets chosen for a sorority? Seriously? I'm not giving away any secrets here, but I can tell you that girls are not chosen based on their cute outfits and the fact that some Phi Psi liked them at one point. Each sorority has stringent membership criteria and you clearly didn't meet it. For any of them. Maybe it's time for a little self reflection. Maybe it raised a red flag for them when you told them you were a sophomore living with juniors you didn't know--could you not find anyone in the dorms to live with after freshman year? Maybe you only seemed concerned about who you were going to pre-party with? Despite what you think you might know, there is more to Greek life at UM than that. Do you actually know any girls in Tri Delt, Kappa or Alpha Phi? Do you know which one has the Red Dress gala? Do you know which one has an Olympian? I'm guessing no.

There are something like 500 clubs at UM. Maybe you should think about what you're really interested in and go join one of them. Or focus on your school work. Or focus on making some friends.

I really hope you did drop. There are many young women who sign up for recruitment for the right reasons and deserve to be in one of the outstanding sororities at UM. It usually works out as it should.

33girl 09-14-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RKelly74 (Post 2178023)
Freshman year, I met a popular guy in phi psi (the "top" frat at out school) who had a crush on me, and he said to definitely rush as a sophomore because he thought I would get a top house, which in his mind is Tri-Delt (I guess because he thought I was attractive).

I just had to laugh at this part. Dudes really will say anything to try and get in a girl's pants. If you'd told him that you hated that all anyone focused on was your looks and not your brains, he would have said you should definitely apply for membership in Phi Beta Kappa.


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