True. But is it really divulging ritual info simply to say who may or may not attend a ritual? I guess even that could depend.

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I don't see why not. The new members, as attendees, are not experiencing or learning anything they haven't already experienced and learned at their own NM ceremonies.

My chapter did quite a bit of COB. When we offered a COB and it was accepted, "existing new members" (for lack of a better term - women who'd already started pledging but who were not initiated yet) in the chapter were welcome at the "new new member's" NM ceremonies. So I don't see why AEPhi NMs from chapter A wouldn't be welcome at chapter B's NM ceremonies.

Initiation, of course, is another matter. The only people allowed at initiation are initiated sisters and the women being initiated.

I don't see saying who may be in attendance part of ritual. If any of my sisters disagree, I would gladly accept their PMs and edit my post. However, as a past ritual chair, I'm pretty sure this is a safe thing to say and does not divulge any of the actual ceremony(s) or anything that could be considered as part of it(them).

No and yes respectfully. Our pledge induction is closed and thus only for brothers and inducted pledges

Pledging Ritual. This is basically whether Pledges at Chapter A can be in attendance at a Pledging ritual at Chapter B, while they are pledges...

Yes. I wouldn't see why not. They have already been through it.

Initiation is another matter and I think that's what got people confused...they thought you were asking about initiation.

New members from COB go through formal pledging, and the already-pledged members (=from recruitment) attend that ceremony. So I don't see why pledged members from one chapter would not be allowed to attend FP at another chapter.

What would be more meaningful, though, if the new initiates would go to the crosstown chapter's initiation. I was home on break several weeks after my initiation and went to initiation at a nearby chapter. It made a tremendous (positive!) impression. A post-initiation review is helpful ("this is what you heard, and what you said, and the mutual obligation"). But it takes a couple of times of being a spectator (or one of the ritual team) to really appreciate the beauty and the scope of the service.

This is the part where I don't quite understand what's being asked, naraht. Are you asking about some kind of an intermediate colony-member status between pledge (by whatever name called) and fully initiated brother or sister?

It also probably wouldn't be appropriate to answer that question either.

I'm still wondering WHY one would take pledges from one chapter to another's ceremony. Let them bond as in their own chapter first, then build on the togetherness.

Of course, this is my humble opinion, and I approve of this message.

Well, as some have noted, pledging ceremonies for some groups are open, so non-members can attend. I think that this falls into a category of people in some groups can talk about it (as quite a few seasoned members of their GLOs have), people in other groups can't or won't.

The publicity of pledging ceremonies can greatly differ between organizations. For example, for mines, guidelines for running our pledging ceremony is actually available on national's website. Details are unique to each chapter.

At mines, we have this thing where members are ordered by seniority, so in such a situation, the yet-to-be-initiated pledges are simply junior to those who are most recently initiated.

In Alpha Phi Omega, the colony-member status (called petitioners) is equivalent to pledging (petitioning ceremony is similar to pledging ceremony). No idea if that is true for other groups...

I don't know anything about our colonies or their members.

But, when it comes to members-only Rituals, you can attend anything that you've been through.