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DrPhil 05-21-2012 02:31 PM

Lane swerve/

Beyond the outsider-in-our-business and loose-lips-sink-ships kind of thing, how is what NutBrnHair said that different than the posts in the GPA thread? Is the GPA thread only talking about the official and documented minimum gpa requirements? Serious questions and no disrespect intended.

/Lane swerve

KDCat 05-21-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by utgirl94 (Post 2147306)
i only know like 1 person to get recs from...how is another way i can get them?

Alabama Panhel has a good page about recs.
http://www.uapanhellenic.com/index.p...d=15&Itemid=32

You need to rethink this before you give up. Your best recs are going to come from people you know personally. You need to talk to every female that you know who has gone to college and ask if she is Greek or if she knows any women who are Greek.

shirley1929 05-21-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KDCat (Post 2147346)
Alabama Panhel has a good page about recs.
http://www.uapanhellenic.com/index.p...d=15&Itemid=32

You need to rethink this before you give up. Your best recs are going to come from people you know personally. You need to talk to every female that you know or your mother knows who has gone to college and ask if she is Greek or if she knows any women who are Greek.

Bolded mine...many girls think it's up to them and their connections, but Moms typically know many more college graduates than 18 year old high school students.

Point being...leverage any women that might know you or OF you via your family.

DeltaBetaBaby 05-21-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2147344)
Lane swerve/

Beyond the outsider-in-our-business and loose-lips-sink-ships kind of thing, how is what NutBrnHair said that different than the posts in the GPA thread? Is the GPA thread only talking about the official and documented minimum gpa requirements? Serious questions and no disrespect intended.

/Lane swerve

It's a little more nuanced than that.

National groups have GPA requirements. I *think* this is public information for every group. However, some chapters also publish their own requirements, and these have to be at least as high as the national requirement.

Sometimes, the actual requirements are in reality much higher than what is published. Other times, those requirements are bent for an exceptional PNM or extenuating circumstances.

So, we can talk about 1) what is published and 2) what is generally required to pledge, but nobody can know the absolute rules for groups other than their own.

DrPhil 05-21-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2147352)
It's a little more nuanced than that.

National groups have GPA requirements. I *think* this is public information for every group. However, some chapters also publish their own requirements, and these have to be at least as high as the national requirement.

Sometimes, the actual requirements are in reality much higher than what is published. Other times, those requirements are bent for an exceptional PNM or extenuating circumstances.

So, we can talk about 1) what is published and 2) what is generally required to pledge, but nobody can know the absolute rules for groups other than their own.

Makes sense, thanks.

Delta has National gpa requirements and there are colleges and universities that have increased the requirements for their own purposes. This is publicized. If a Delta chapter has unofficial and unpublicized requirements, that is something that can vary and is not shared with everyone.

AlphaFrog 05-21-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2147354)
Makes sense, thanks.

Delta has National gpa requirements and there are colleges and universities that have increased the requirements for their own purposes. This is publicized. If a Delta chapter has unofficial and unpublicized requirements, that is something that can not only vary but is not shared to just anyone.

The other issue is whether you would be comfortable stating that, as a supposed authority, the XYZ chapter of Delta has a higher GPA requirement, as does ZPhiB and SGRho at the same institution.


ETA: Even if you could make the statement that you personally knew 6 XYZ aspirants and three with lower than 3.0s did not get in, while the three with higher than 3.0s did, unless you were in the membership selection room, you don't know for sure that GPA was the reason. There could have been another common denominator....or maybe a variety of reasons that had nothing to do with GPA.

DrPhil 05-21-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2147355)
The other issue is whether you would be comfortable stating that, as a supposed authority, the XYZ chapter of Delta has a higher GPA requirement, as does ZPhiB and SGRho at the same institution.

I would neither state that for my own collegiate chapter's undocumented requirements nor those of another Delta chapter's, let alone those of Zeta and SGRho. :)

NutBrnHair 05-21-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2147344)
Lane swerve/

Beyond the outsider-in-our-business and loose-lips-sink-ships kind of thing, how is what NutBrnHair said that different than the posts in the GPA thread? Is the GPA thread only talking about the official and documented minimum gpa requirements? Serious questions and no disrespect intended.

/Lane swerve

Because I'm the one who said it. Heck, I didn't even mention the names of the groups! LOL

DrPhil 05-21-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2147360)
Because I'm the one who said it. Heck, I didn't even mention the names of the groups! LOL

Only if the GPA thread is also talking about the unofficial and undocumented gpa requirements. ;)

shirley1929 05-21-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2147352)
Sometimes, the actual requirements are in reality much higher than what is published. Other times, those requirements are bent for an exceptional PNM or extenuating circumstances.

I think this is worth quoting. I wrote for a darling girl a couple of years ago who probably didn't make minimum GPA for my group on that campus (and I don't know what that is because I didn't go there, but am guessing it was higher than what she had). She had the unfortunate circumstance of having lost a family member her sophomore year of HS. Completely unexpected. She went to a super competitive private HS, and flat out tanked that year. However, in looking at her grades, she slowly picked herself up and kept going. Not great overall, but finished as strong as she could. Darling girl, great extra-curriculars, etc... Had a wonderful rush & got what she wanted even though she probably didn't have the "right" GPA. Everyone knew the story & cut her slack for that.

Point being...there are no hard and fast rules in the world of NPC recruitment!

NutBrnHair 05-21-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shirley1929 (Post 2147367)
Point being...there are no hard and fast rules in the world of NPC recruitment!

So true. Exceptions are sometimes made.

HQWest 05-21-2012 04:27 PM

From the University of Tennessee webpage -
http://admissions.utk.edu/undergradu...irements.shtml

» How competitive is our admissions process?
The middle 50 percent of the fall 2010 admitted class had score ranges of 1110 – 1300 (SAT CR + M) or 24-29 ACT and a core high school GPA range of 3.42-4.0.

One should consider that this is probably also reflective of the going through recruitment. Thus, someone with a 3.0 GPA entering UT would be well within the lower 25% of the incoming class.

Perhaps if they had a serious health issue in high school or were coming from a foreign country they would have some circumstances that would account for a lower GPA but they would need to be sure to tell people that.

AZTheta 05-21-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by utgirl94 (Post 2147287)
I am currently an upcoming freshman and am planning to rush this fall at The Univesity of Tennessee Knoxville. I was wondering how competitive it is there, any tips for rush and about the sororities. Thanks!!

Did I miss something? Don't see where the OP commented about her GPA and she didn't edit her original post. Is there another thread where she discussed her GPA?

amIblue? 05-21-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2147384)
Did I miss something? Don't see where the OP commented about her GPA and she didn't edit her original post. Is there another thread where she discussed her GPA?

No, you didn't miss a thing.

WhiteRose1912 05-21-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTheta (Post 2147384)
Did I miss something? Don't see where the OP commented about her GPA and she didn't edit her original post. Is there another thread where she discussed her GPA?

It has nothing to do with the OP's GPA. The discussion started with this reply about why it's a competitive recruitment:

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 2147308)
I know there are several groups who don't pledge anyone who has a g.p.a. under 3.0



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