Thank you Senusret. That is my goal in all of this, to be prepared. I would rather have the recs than not and be put at a disadvantage.

Maybe not "compare notes", but if afwilliams is attending a PWI with a small AfAm student population, nothing needs to be said because it will get noticed and word will spread that way.

If afwilliams has an unsuccessful NPC recruitment then tries NPHC I'm almost certain she will not be looked on favorably by the NPHC sororities. Why? Because those women in the NPHC sororities will interpret that as us being her "sloppy seconds". This may not happen, but it also very well could.

The rec forms for most if not all NPCs includes a section about a PNM's legacy status to any NPC group, so that information becomes common knowledge. How many recs you get to each chapter is not common knowledge.

Yes, it could go either way. My experience with college students doesn't suggest that being a likelihood, but everyone's mileage will vary.

At some schools, yes.

I also agree. :)

SERIOUSLY? You think that if pledging an NPC doesn't work out that the campus NPHC organizations might not know? and even more, won't CARE that she tried to join an NPC organization first & came to them only after her attempt to join an NPC group failed? :eek:

Really don't see that happening....

There are a lot of possibilities in addition to the one you posit, including the young lady going through recruitment and deciding it's not for her, or getting a bid and turning it down, or getting all of her recs but deciding not to even start NPC rush.

Lots of things could happen and I'm not disagreeing that having an unsuccessful NPC rush and THEN attempting to join an NPHC would be problematic. But I am saying it's not the only outcome.

No, it usually goes like this (I've noticed):

Unsuccessful NPC recruitment OR unsuccessful NPHC intake ==> try to join a MCGLO ==> try to join a local ==> "I think I need to start my own sorority because none at my school are for me." :rolleyes:

Yes, it can also go like that.

Just a little clarification, I am preparing for both NPC and NPHC. I have not ultimately decided where I would like to become a member at just yet. I have weighed the pros and cons of both and understand that I cannot be a member in both. I also know that it is a serious decision because of the lifetime commitment and it shouldn't be taken lightly.

I am getting recs for NPC so that if I decide to go that route I won't be scrambling at the last minute. I have even started to make a list off sorority women from NPHC that I can go to when that time comes for letters of recommendation.

Although I truly want to be a part of sorority life, I would not consider one or the other a "back-up". I feel that I could be happy in either group. I am just asking the question about NPC recs because that is the first event that will come up if I decide to go that route.

I know that I still have a lot of thinking to do, I just want to have all my bases covered no matter which way I go :)

I think the way you are going about this is to cover all of your basis, and for most things that is exactly what you would do. But, in this case it does not exactly work like that. From an NPHC perspective, it is understood that one selects the sorority because the aspirant has thoroughly researched the org, and she can see herself as a benefit to the aims of the org.

Personally, it sounds to me as if you should do more research into the various orgs that you are interested in so that you can be more prepared for the recruitment process. In any process one of the first questions you will be asked is "Why do you want to join?" You should have a well thought out answer, and not just "because I want to join a sorority" - that makes you look as if you are only in it for the letters.

Understand that I am not criticizing what you are doing. I just think you need to do more research so that this fall you will be fully prepared to go through the sorority recruitment process of your choice.

I completely get where you're coming from, and that you for explaining in such a "non-bratty" way :) I see how what I'm doing could possibly be seen as just being in it for the letters, that is definitely not my intent. Thank you very much for the info :)

I completely get where you're coming from, and that you for explaining in such a "non-bratty" way :) I see how what I'm doing could possibly be seen as just being in it for the letters, that is definitely not my intent. Thank you very much for the info :)

You're welcome. :) Good luck in your pursuit. I hope you find the org that is best for you!