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Tulip86 05-11-2012 06:21 PM

I wish they sold all the amazing mixes for cakes/pancakes/bread you can buy in any store in the U.S. here but they don't. I bake every single thing from scratch. Some core ingredients (like baking soda and save for very few stores, shortening) are not for sale either, which means editing recipes and trial and error.

AGDee 05-11-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2145313)
I'm (patting myself on the back) a good cook, and my pastries are great. I used to make croissants from scratch. (who has the time or patience any more?) Seriously, one hundred percent from scratch. And they would bring you to your knees. But I can't bake bread to save my life and that is a travesty. I can make brioche, which many people find difficult, but you'd think that would make a standard loaf of white bread a piece of cake. I ALWAYS end up with a brick. The other thing I don't do well is pancakes. Friggin PANCAKES. I wonder what the commonality is.

You either aren't letting your bread rise long enough (it should double in size) or you are killing your yeast so it isn't rising. When you mix the yeast in water, (usual first step), make sure the water is exactly body temperature. You do this by testing the water against the inside of your wrist. It should feel like NO temperature.. not hot, not cold, just the same exact temperature. This is the same way you test baby formula. Inside of the wrist.

I don't know how you screw up pancakes.

I love to bake :) My fruit pie recipes all call for flour, not pectin. I'll be making strawberry rhubarb pies on Sunday.. a Mother's Day tradition in my family.

IUHoosiergirl88 05-11-2012 07:28 PM

I can't really cook very well, but I can bake like a queen, haha. I think it's because baking is a little bit more 'science-y' and is more exact than cooking...I haven't mastered the whole rare-medium-well done concept yet.

I get all of my cookie recipes from the straight-out-of-the-70s "Cooky Book" by Betty Crocker. My mom wasn't much of a baker so when I discovered my talent, it became mine. Best cookies ever.

Pancakes? Honestly, the bisquick recipe. Add in whatever you want into the batter (blueberries, choco chips, etc) and it's the best thing I can find. I also use bisquick for scones...

clarinette 05-11-2012 07:32 PM

I haven't started really baking much yet, but I've done 5-Chocolate Brownies (the original recipe-giver called them The Brownies That Will Cure Anything), chocolate-chip cookies, and peanut butter blossoms (pb cookies with Hershey kisses on top for those who don't know). I hope to help more with baking this Christmas (we don't bake a lot in the summer, because it's too warm).

WCsweet<3 05-11-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by victoriana (Post 2145323)
I'm great with crusts, but when it comes to the filling, it's always a disaster. From a simple strawberries and jello pie to chocolate silk... I just can't seem to get it right! Any advice?

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2145328)
If I were to guess, I'd say you are not letting any of your fillings get thick enough. Pectin is your friend, and for something like chocolate pies, you want it thicker than pudding. If it's a cooked recipe, turn the temp down and don't be in a hurry. Also, and I hate to say it, but you don't want to use skim milk to save calories. You might try evaporated skim milk if you don't want to go full fat. Oh, and if the recipe says cook it, chill for 3 hours, put in pan, seriously, you have to chill it for 3 hours, and there are no shortcuts. I don't understand the chemistry, but it makes a huge difference in both taste and texture.


Advice varies depending on what goes wrong. DubaiSis gives excellent advice if that is your problem.

IrishLake 05-11-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tulip86 (Post 2145367)
I wish they sold all the amazing mixes for cakes/pancakes/bread you can buy in any store in the U.S. here but they don't. I bake every single thing from scratch. Some core ingredients (like baking soda and save for very few stores, shortening) are not for sale either, which means editing recipes and trial and error.

WHAT? You don't have baking soda? How is that possible? That's crazy-mind blowing to me. We use it for SOOOO many things, not just baking.

WCsweet<3 05-11-2012 08:04 PM

^^ I just saw that. Can I mail you some?

DubaiSis 05-11-2012 08:09 PM

They undoubtedly have baking soda, although they may call it something else. Go to the drug store and ask for bicarbonate of soda. And I'm not a fan of shortening under any circumstances. Lard will give you better results. And believe it or not, lard has more "good fats" than a lot of oils you are probably buying now because of their benefits. Sugar cookies made from lard will blow any crisco variety out of the water any day.

Tulip86 05-11-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2145396)
WHAT? You don't have baking soda? How is that possible? That's crazy-mind blowing to me. We use it for SOOOO many things, not just baking.

I know! I used to use it on a weekly basis back in the US but now I always have to find ways to get around it. We have baking powder here, so with a little experimentation most recipes turn out okay. But for all the other things.. nothing compares. Something else to stock up on when I'm in the US again. (that and cajun spice mix, good barbecue sauce, chipotle, Jello and twizzlers)
Thank god they introduced Oreos here two years ago.

Tulip86 05-11-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2145402)
They undoubtedly have baking soda, although they may call it something else. Go to the drug store and ask for bicarbonate of soda. And I'm not a fan of shortening under any circumstances. Lard will give you better results. And believe it or not, lard has more "good fats" than a lot of oils you are probably buying now because of their benefits. Sugar cookies made from lard will blow any crisco variety out of the water any day.

They have bicarbonate of soda in stomach tablets but they have some extra ingredients in them (believe me, I checked). Otherwise it's not readily available, only in the crazy expensive expat stores in Amsterdam.

Lard? Ooh, I have to try that! You just get your lard at the butcher?

IrishLake 05-11-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WCsweet<3 (Post 2145398)
^^ I just saw that. Can I mail you some?

Just what I was thinking. I will send you some! Twizzlers too. ;)

DubaiSis 05-11-2012 10:46 PM

You can ask the butcher, but in American grocery stores it's usually on the shelf in the Mexican foods section. I'm surprised at your limited offerings. It sounds like Dubai 5 or 6 years ago. By the time I left, there wasn't much I couldn't find at my regular grocery store, along with a variety of vegetables and fish you'd NEVER see in an American grocery store.
The things I couldn't get that I had to stock up on- Lawry's Seasoning Salt, Magic Erasers, Gaviscon Extra Strength, Melatonin, Progesterone cream.

MysticCat 05-12-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 2145380)
I don't know how you screw up pancakes.

If I had to guess. the pan is either too hot or not hot enough. There's a sweet spot in there where the temperature is just right.

Also, try separating your eggs. Mix the yolks with the other ingredients, then beat the whites and fold them in. It makes the pancakes wonderfully light. (Thanks "Worst Cook in America.")

As for pie filing, I know that Lynn Rossetto Kasper had some advice about that on "The Splendid Table" recently. I'll see if I can find that podcast.

AZTheta 05-12-2012 10:09 AM

Tulip86, you have GC baking friends who'd be happy to send you care packages! What do you need from the southwest? :D

I am an awesome baker. It's fascinating because I don't particularly enjoying cooking, although I love to watch the Food Network channel. Mostly because of the personalities (especially Paula Deen and Sandra Lee, but everyone else makes me laugh, and I love the Pioneer Woman).

True confession: my guilty pleasure is cookie cookbooks, and any cookbook that has to do with baking. I love the King Arthur Flour website.

The worst part of living in the desert? Not a lot of baking in the summer. Don't want to heat up the house.

Tulip86 05-12-2012 10:22 AM

Thanks for the offer, that's incredibly sweet!

Shipping is very steep though, even for the smallest of packages. Fortunately I won't have to go without them very long because it looks like I'm coming back for a few weeks in the fall!


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