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AnotherKD 06-22-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2064811)
I think she's thinking that Catholic school means all nuns, no men, no sorority women as teachers. That, or the fact that not all Catholic school require their teachers to have a college degree.

But Catholic school =/= mandatory segregation of girls and boys. There are definitely schools I know of that were co-ed.

DeltaBetaBaby 06-22-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2064811)
I think she's thinking that Catholic school means all nuns, no men, no sorority women as teachers. That, or the fact that not all Catholic school require their teachers to have a college degree.

The first part. I don't think many nuns/priests were in sororities and fraternities.

Titchou 06-22-2011 12:19 PM

Not so true these days. Most Catholic schools have more lay teachers than nuns. Back in my day, it was rare to have a lay teacher in a Catholic school. Not so much now.....

DaffyKD 06-22-2011 12:20 PM

Many of your friends may have mothers who were in a sorority. if the mother went to college, ask her what the Greek Life was on her campus. She just may begin to tell you her sorority experience leaving the door open for you to ask for a recommendation.

Talk to your school counselor. When my children were in HS, we were told that the counselors had lists of teachers/staff who are sorority members just for this occasion-- they can send you to that person for the necessary recommendations. Be sure to give that person a copy of your resume so they can include the information on the form. If you don't give them the information, they are not going to look it up for you (grades, class standing, school activities, etc.). Make sure your resume is accurate. Mention you were on the local youth council if you were, but do not say you were an officer if you were not.

You have to take the bull by the horns. If you don't do the work, no one is going to do it for you. Someplace buried in all of the GC messages you will find a reply about my own experience back when your mother was still very young. I too am not a legacy of any house. I have a mother who rather destroy my self confidence than build it up. I was not popular in school. I only went through rush to get away from my mother a week early. I had all intentions of going through the first day parties in order to stay in the only open dorm, drop out that night and spend the rest of the week at the beach. I ended up finding my home, pledged, and have since gone on to be President of my alumnae chapter 3 terms, and on our National Leadership Team. Legacy is not a guarantee someone will get into a house!

DaffyKD

aopirose 06-22-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2064811)
That, or the fact that not all Catholic school require their teachers to have a college degree.

In all of my life, I have never heard of such, but I guess they may exist somewhere.


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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2064816)
The first part. I don't think many nuns/priests were in sororities and fraternities.

You'd be surprised especially if they did not take Holy Orders until a bit later. Our current associate pastor is a Pi Kappa Alpha.

DeltaBetaBaby 06-22-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aopirose (Post 2064822)
You'd be surprised especially if they did not take Holy Orders until a bit later. Our current associate pastor is a Pi Kappa Alpha.

Indeed, I am surprised!

One more thing to add, here. A good number of sorority alumnae have no idea what a rec is or how to write one, and it wouldn't surprise me if you encounter that in a less-greek area. Someone wiser than I can perhaps throw out some ideas on how to address that?

ree-Xi 06-22-2011 12:45 PM

I went to co-ed Catholic HS in the 80s (well, from K-12). There were only three nuns teaching at the time, two priests, and one Franciscan brother. The rest were lay teachers - male and female. I think that there was a pretty even distribution of male to females teachers, as well. I don't think that there was a single teacher who did NOT go to college. I don't know how many may teachers have been Greek, but a decent number of graduating students from my class went Greek.

IrishLake 06-22-2011 12:56 PM

I went to a co-ed Catholic high school for 13 years (graduated in 98), and in all of those years, I had nuns twice and a lay person once, and all went to 4 year colleges. Everyone else was a normal teacher. Some weren't even Catholic. I think the that same school right now, there aren't any nuns or lay people teaching. I also have never heard of Catholic schools hiring non-college grads. Not in recent years, at least. Too much competetion for teaching jobs. We had one high school chemistry teacher for one year who had an MBA, but not a teaching degree (he was horrible and only lasted a year).

As an aside about nuns and priests not going to college and being greek.... dont' assume about anything. We have a visiting priest who has 3 biological children. He was married for 30 years, he became a deacon in that time, his wife died so he wasn't permitted to remarry. He figured why not go "all the way" and become a priest? He felt the calling and was ordained at the young age of 62.


/wowwayofftopic

AnotherKD 06-22-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2064834)
I think the that same school right now, there aren't any nuns or lay people teaching.

Whaaaaaaat?????? Really?

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Originally Posted by IrishLake (Post 2064834)
We have a visiting priest who has 3 biological children. He was married for 30 years, he became a deacon in that time, his wife died so he wasn't permitted to remarry. He figured why not go "all the way" and become a priest? He felt the calling and was ordained at the young age of 62.

That's cool.

IrishLake 06-22-2011 01:42 PM

AnotherKD, there MAY be one nun teaching in the grade school. Like 1st or 2nd grade. If she's still there, she's gotta be pushing 80. The last nun left the high school about 4 years ago.

Titchou 06-22-2011 01:43 PM

[QUOTE=AnotherKD;2064840]Whaaaaaaat?????? Really?

Maybe she meant they don't do a very good job of teaching.

The Catholic girls' HS I went to (in the 60's) mostly had nuns but had a couple or 3 lay teachers - all female. ALL the nuns had at least a master's and at least 2 had PhD's(one had 2 PhD's!)...Very educated bunch....

And oddly enough, it was in Missouri!

AlphaFrog 06-22-2011 01:54 PM

The Catholic high school I went to had only a couple nuns, and they were mainly in the counseling dept (talk about useless). The school didn't require that you had a college degree, however that was sort of like recs not being *required* at Bama...just because it's TECHNICALLY not required doesn't mean much.

IrishLake 06-22-2011 02:01 PM

Titchou, AnotherKD is familiar with the high school I went to. ;)
All of the nuns were excellent teachers, with the exception of one (and I forgot to add her, so 3 nuns and 1 layperson, technically). She didn't beleive in dinosaurs, or evolution. I got kicked out of 9th grade religion class for arguing with her over the existance of fossils, she thought they were all a hoax.

ZetaGirl22 06-22-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou (Post 2064817)
Not so true these days. Most Catholic schools have more lay teachers than nuns. Back in my day, it was rare to have a lay teacher in a Catholic school. Not so much now.....

Its basically ALL lay teachers now, at least at the schools in the Archdiocese I came up in. Usually the religious people teaching would be monks or nuns, but it is so SOOOOOOO rare to see that anymore. And as far as I know, ALL Catholic schools (around me mind you) require a college degree and some individual schools require a teacher's license from the state. And I know PLENTY of Catholics who are greek.

Drolefille 06-22-2011 09:03 PM

One nun in grade school - K-8, and one in high school, one priest in high school. Most Catholic schools have lay people teaching (which just means non-clergy/etc) and while they prefer Catholic teachers it isn't a requirement.

College degree was required, but not necessarily in education. They got a lot of retired public school teachers. Also several of the priests at SLU were Greek, the one who oversaw the Greek dorm was a Delta Sig and would attend some of their events.


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