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ghettobacon 05-01-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2052424)

Your school needs to be open for sorority expansion in order for another sorority to colonize.

In order for that to happen, the school's Greek Life Office and Panhellenic community needs to see a need for another chapter, decide that the level of sorority interest there culd support another chapter, and vote to open for expansion.

In short, this is something that can't happen without the proper approval. It's not just going to happen because a fraternity thinks there should be another sorority.

Thank you for giving me some useful information, I truly appreciate it!

DrPhil 05-01-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052432)
Thank you for giving me some useful information, I truly appreciate it!

And while you're at it, be sure to tell your fellow Rutgers Greeks that there are only 7 sororities at Rutgers. Greek Unity and all.

BrandNewAdvisor 05-01-2011 11:49 PM

Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?

KSUViolet06 05-01-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandNewAdvisor (Post 2052441)
Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?

Not usually. There are some situations where a school will choose 2 sororities and have one colonize one year and one the next. However, I believe Rutgers only added one (Phi Sigma Sigma.) I doubt they'll be opening again for a few years.

ghettobacon 05-01-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2052438)
And while you're at it, be sure to tell your fellow Rutgers Greeks that there are only 7 sororities at Rutgers. Greek Unity and all.

Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it

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Originally Posted by BrandNewAdvisor (Post 2052441)
Didn't Rutgers just add Phi Sigma Sigma? Would a school be open for expansion again that quickly?

I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.

DrPhil 05-02-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052456)
Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it

You finally admitted that you made a mistake. Congratulations. Now fuck off.

KSUViolet06 05-02-2011 12:01 AM

^^^^New colonies don't get people interested in Greek Life.

Drolefille 05-02-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052456)
Get off your high horse, I made a mistake. Happy sorry to disrespect any other organization. Now get over it

Or you could just have admitted your mistake without copping an attitude.
But that's cool, tell the person who pointed out your mistake they're handling it wrong. You showed them! Darn angry "specific groups" always demanding to be recognized.

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I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.
That is not how NPC expansion works.

ghettobacon 05-02-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 2052463)
That is not how NPC expansion works.

Please explain

KSUViolet06 05-02-2011 12:13 AM

School officials don't say "oh hey, fraternity numbers are declining. Let's add a new sorority!"

And really, Rutgers JUST added Phi Sigma Sigma. Sorority life is not on the decline there. School officials likely don't see a NEED for a new group at this point.

DrPhil 05-02-2011 12:19 AM

Perhaps the Greek Life Office could have explained this to the OP.

victoriana 05-02-2011 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2052425)
fuckery

YES. i'm gonna use this.

voLTAgeDEuce 05-02-2011 12:47 AM

Get It Right
 
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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052415)
I am NOT including a group like "Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority" because they are a Latin Sorority.

Why Not?!
LTA is the Only Way!!
Just to clear something up, Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Incorporated is Latin by Tradition, Not by Definition. We believe in empowering the Universal Woman no matter her race, creed, orientation, etc. We are an Academic Sorority and we do hold social, cultural, charitable, and educational events. Our Epsilon chapter at Rutgers was founded in 1987 and still goes hard!!


To Be An LTA You Have To BREAK YOUR BACK!!

33girl 05-02-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052456)
I think they would be, especially since Phi Sigma Sigma took over the Sig Ep House last year and Sig ep's have kind of died off ever since. It seems to be that fraternities around here can not survive too well without a house. I mean technically they are still around, their numbers are very low. There are many more factors to this but in the end my main point is greek life is slowly dieing here at Rutgers and what better way to revitalize it than to bring a NPC organization. Those are the ones that typically get publicized the most, and catch the interest of non greeks to join greek life.

OK, not counting the NALFO/NPHC groups, there are 26 fraternities. If some of those are very low in members, then having 7 sororities is probably just right.

Sororities use quota and total to (try to) make them all the same size. Fraternities don't do that however. You can have one with 100 members and one with 15 members on the same campus, and they can both be perfectly healthy.

What campuses strive for is parity of number of members between IFC & NPC...in other words, you want to try and have (example) 300 fraternity members and 300 sorority members. Typically the way those numbers are distributed is going to lean toward fewer sororities than fraternities.

It sounds more like the fraternities need to get their shit together and stop playing musical houses. This happened at my campus and it just made things a mess. Also, sororities do not want to colonize on a campus where the fraternities are unhealthy.

Titchou 05-02-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettobacon (Post 2052465)
Please explain

The college Panhellenic Council follows the procedures outlined in the NPC Manual of Information, commonly known as the Green Book. They do some research on recruitment numbers and membership numbers and then talk with their NPC Area Adviser and the individual NPC groups' NPC Delegate and other national officers. Then they vote on whether or not to expand. Once the vote has been approved, the college PH notifies NPC that the campus is open for expansion. NPC advises the groups not currently on that campus that it is open for expansion. THose groups then decide if they want to send an information packet to the college. Once the deadline for packets has passed, the college PH picks the groups they want to invite to present. After all the presentations are done the college PH votes which one to extend a bid to.

As you can see, it's a very complicated and proscribed process. One doesn't just add a group. You might talk with the Greek Adviser and ask if they are looking into expansion and why/why not for an answer specific to your campus.


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