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Originally Posted by KSig RC
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We should all be happy that Westboro is as active and prolific as they are. The more their insane views are associated with the anti-gay movement, the better off homosexuals will be - let's try to get them to support the BCS, the designated hitter, non-EZPass toll booths, the penny, and sundry other stupid shit while we're at it.
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The Prop 8 group pretty much failed on their own when their views were put in front of a judge in court. Extremists of all stripes are more than annoying.
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Originally Posted by Blondie93
(Post 2020000)
Is this how they make their money to travel all over the place? I often wondered how they afforded all that travel. Do they have jobs outside of the church or do they live an insulated life?
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They spend a LOT of money, and I'm not sure where it all comes from myself.
From wiki from a BBC doc:
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Later in the documentary, Phelps-Roper agrees that the $200,000 the church annually spends to fly to funerals to protest was money spent to spread "God's hate."[54]
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Fred Phelps himself was disbarred for his conduct over 30 years ago now I think. But I recall that a surprisingly high percentage of his 71 member church were lawyers including most/all of his (THIRTEEN) children and some spouses too. He has collected damages from an associated law firm -Phelps something or other - and I suspect that they actually work as well. But their beliefs are so vitriolic against not just gays or catholics but pretty much EVERY non-white, non-Christian group. (But they're not racist they swear.) I'm not sure how well they actually work with other people. Assuming they practice what they preach.
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Church views
The Westboro Baptist Church considers membership in most religious groups, such as the Roman Catholic Church or Islam, as akin to devil worship, and states these other churches to be "Satanic frauds preaching Arminian lies."[50] All non-Christian entities, non-Protestant Christian churches, and all Protestant Christian churches that do not strongly condemn homosexuality are said to be sending their members to Hell.
Views on homosexuality
The group bases its work around the belief expressed by its best known slogan and the address of its primary Web site, God Hates Fags, asserting that every tragedy in the world is linked to homosexuality—specifically society's increasing tolerance and acceptance of the so-called homosexual agenda. The group maintains that God hates gays above all other kinds of "sinners"[55] and that homosexuality should be a capital crime.[56]
Views on religions
Catholicism
Westboro Baptist refers to Catholic priests as "vampires" and "Draculas" and talks of Catholic priests sucking semen out of male children's genitals like vampires suck blood from their victims. In addition, WBC calls Pope Benedict XVI such epithets as "The Godfather of Pedophiles" and "Pervert Pope".
The WBC also criticizes Catholicism, as it does Eastern Orthodoxy, for venerating the Virgin Mary, the Saints, relics, and icons; accusing the Catholic church of commiting idolatry.
Protestantism
Though the main purpose of the Priests Rape Boys website is to criticize Catholicism, the WBC also criticizes several mainline Protestant churches on the website, including Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Anglicans, and Baptists. The WBC explains that
"their preachers have shirked their responsibility to tell people the truth about sin, and instead lie to them about what the Lord their God doth require of them. If these lying, false prophets told people the truth about what God says regarding those who suffer sin upon their neighbor (Lev. 19:17–18), there wouldn't be any butts in the seats when the plate got passed. These preachers are not preachers of righteousness, they are teachers having itching ears (2Tim 4:3), and they absolutely count on the abysmal bible illiteracy of their parishioners ... "Priests rape boys" is indeed an air-tight, three word case against all of the mainline 'christian' churches - their preachers and members, without exception. They are all going to Hell!"[59]
Islam
In response to a Newsweek article alleging that American soldiers flushed copies of the Qur'an down the toilet at Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo Bay, Fred Phelps released this statement:[61]
So what if our guys flushed copies of the Quran down the toilet? We hope they did. They probably did; We hope they flush more. Mohammed was a demon-possessed whoremonger and pedophile who contrived a 300-page work of Satanic fiction: The Quran! Like America's own whoremonger and pedophile wangled his own hokey Book of Mormon!
Hinduism
The WBC maintains a God Hates India webpage where they state that "80% of India's population claim to practice Hinduism ... "A country full of idolatry inevitably results in a nation full of fags and fag-enablers, because that's what happens when you depart from the Living God!"[63]
Judaism
the only true Jews are Christians. The rest of the people who claim to be Jews aren't, and they are nothing more than typical, impenitent sinners ... the vast majority of Jews support fags. In fact, it is the official policy of Reformed Jews to support same-sex marriage. Of course, there are Jews who still believe God's law, but most of them have even departed from that. It doesn't matter if you're a Jew or a Gentile...as long as you believe in Christ."[64]
In 1996, Phelps began a campaign called "Topeka's Baptist Holocaust", whereby he attempted to draw attention to attacks perpetrated against WBC picketers, saying that they were not random but organized attacks orchestrated by Jews and homosexuals. Phelps announced, "Jews killed Christ", and "Fag Jew Nazis are worse than ordinary Nazis. They've had more experience. The First Holocaust was a Jewish Holocaust against Christians. The latest Holocaust is by Topeka Jews against Westboro Baptist Church."[65]
A March 25, 2006 flier regarding a Jewish adversary of Phelps uses the phrase "bloody Jew" four times and the phrase "evil Jew" more than once every twelve sentences. A sampling of WBC's fliers regarding Judaism can be found at the ADL's website.[67] Phelps has also been targeted by the Anti-Defamation League for his anti-Semitic statements.[67][68]
Views on race and ethnicity
Founder Fred Phelps is a veteran of the Civil Rights movement (1955–1968),[69] and the Church attempts to distance itself from racism.[70] Despite this, Phelps' group did protest outside Coretta Scott King's funeral.[71]
On the subject of neo-Nazis, the KKK, and other violent extremist groups: "We don't believe in physical violence of any kind, and the Scripture doesn't support racism. ... The only true Nazis in this world are fags."[72]
The church has previously condemned particular nations, such as Italy, which it described as a nation of "mobster-breeding perverts".[73]
Views on Barack Obama
The Westboro Baptist Church believes that Barack Obama is the Antichrist, and that he forms an Unholy Trinity with Satan and Pope Benedict XVI, who they believe is the False Prophet.[74]
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