Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 1996651)

Must we really be so nasty to the OP? He is a clueless high schooler, obviously, but it is entirely valid to be concerned about how fraternities may view a non-white. Keep in mind that many national orgs discriminated very openly at points in their history.

Originally Posted by Miriverite (Post 1996577)

^ the hippie Austin society. They are a fairly liberal city, if you hang around the right neighbourhoods.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996578)

Oh ok, thanks. The right neighborhoods of the hippie part of the fairly liberal city of Austin is not "Texas society."

Originally Posted by jimmy13 (Post 1996670)

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1996669)

The cities in the Texas Triangle have a "don't bother me and I won't bother you" attitude for the most part (race relations and religion).

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996674)

You do know that "don't bother me and I won't bother you" isn't the same thing as tolerance and non-discrimination, right? It means that everyone can get along as long as they stay out of each other's way. As soon as you get in someone's way (i.e. a minority joining a fraternity chapter that isn't ready for that) that's when there's a problem.

Originally Posted by jimmy13 (Post 1996670)

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

I'm pretty much joining to get job and internship hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Originally Posted by jimmy13 (Post 1996670)

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Originally Posted by jimmy13 (Post 1996670)

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1996676)

I should've been more clear.

What I meant was as long as you're not trying to force your beliefs on others, no one cares what you do. If you want to be Buddhist, go ahead -- that's your prerogative. If you want to be in an interracial relationship -- that's all you. I didn't mean it as "as long as you people stay out of my neighborhood, we won't have problems!" or anything like that.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996683)

Realistically, it's probably more along the lines of what I said. It's your prerogative until you seek more depth in terms of interaction. That's when people confuse real integration (not surface level integration) with forcing your beliefs on someone.

Originally Posted by jimmy13 (Post 1996670)

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1996687)

I suppose.

I do know that all of the large Texas cities (and most Sunbelt cities) are are filled with transplants from more 'tolerant' areas of the US, and they bring their progressive values with them. I was just making the point that Austin is not the lone ranger when it comes to liberal thinking in Texas.

I see what you're saying, though. It's never just skin deep (pun intended).

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996694)

Excellent pun. :)

Such progression is always better in theory than in practice. That also goes for the more "tolerant" areas of the U.S. that are still very segregated by race and ethnicity.