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PiKA2001 06-05-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939694)
This. You said you thought we were beyond "this" by now and I don't know why you would think that. Despite how well people have learned to hide their racial and ethnic prejudices, they still express them in more anonymous settings or settings where they feel they are around likeminded others.

I meant in an evolutionary way. I believe its our animal instincts that bring out racism and bigotry, it's because we humans are tribal.

Like the Miike Snow song "Animal"

I change shapes just to hide in this place but I'm still, I'm still an animal
Nobody knows it but me when I slip yeah I slip
I'm still an animal

DrPhil 06-05-2010 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939702)
I meant in an evolutionary way. I believe its our animal instincts that bring out racism and bigotry, it's because we humans are tribal.

Like the Miike Snow song "Animal"

I change shapes just to hide in this place but I'm still, I'm still an animal
Nobody knows it but me when I slip yeah I slip
I'm still an animal

I disagree 100% with all of this. Tribal is not synonymous with (animal) instinct. "Tribes" are still human constructions and even animals (many of which also have tribal groups and hierarchies) have constructions that are arguably nurture as much as (or even more than) nature. Animals are taught, as are we.

Back to the lightened darkies in this thread, though.

Elephant Walk 06-06-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939665)
Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

Thank you.

Furthermore, I don't understand how the "Tea Party" is somehow racist or prejudice because it happens to be mostly white (although anecdotally, the Tea Parties I've attended have had plenty Hispanics, African-Americans, etc). If that was the basis for judging such prejudices, then I think you would have to consider BET (among other things) as racist. I don't, it doesn't make sense, but it would have to be the same line of thinking. [For MysticCat, I'm not responding to PiKA, I'm responding to the article.]

A common complaint is something to the effect of "well, it's racist because a few members hurled racial slurs." Whether or not that is true is one thing (I'm sure someone can provide a video where it proves it, whatever), the same line of thinking would have to follow that the Democratic party is racist as some of it's members have taken to racial slurs (speaking of course of Robert Byrd and Lyndon B. Johnson). It's just more irrationalism, on both sides.

PiKA2001 06-06-2010 11:06 AM

If BET is racist then the arguement can be made that lifetime and spike TV are both sexist ;-) they are just catering to a specific target audience. As for tea partys, never been to one, but I heard there was open invites posted on online boards prior to certain events welcoming infiltrators to show up and try to make them look bad in front of the cameras.

DrPhil 06-06-2010 11:16 AM

BET and Lifetime don't have the power through ownership and group interest to be racist or sexist. Beyond the majority Black and majority women surfaces there are whites and men making many of the key decisions.

cheerfulgreek 06-06-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939665)
Have you looked around on that site; the language in some of those posts? Do you not see that it can be polarizing to people not on the " Everyone who is white is evil, racist, bigot, white-trash, Nazi" bandwagon?

Are you kidding me? No, I didn't look at the site, but I'm not surprised. I hate it when some people blame an entire race for their own problems.


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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1939677)
aren't we supposed to be beyond this by now?

THIS
It's dumb.

Elephant Walk 06-07-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939797)
BET and Lifetime don't have the power through ownership and group interest to be racist or sexist.

That's not really the argument that was put before people over the tea party.

the argument simply seemed to be:
the group is mostly homogenous, therefore racist.

DrPhil 06-07-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk (Post 1940125)
That's not really the argument that was put before people over the tea party.

I don't care about that.

RU OX Alum 06-07-2010 06:05 PM

what do you mean? You don't care that people are being seen as racist just they're white?

DrPhil 06-07-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1940261)
what do you mean?

That what EW is typing about isn't the same topic that I'm typing about or care about.

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1940261)
You don't care that people are being seen as racist just they're white?

No. Sound the alarm and call the Feds.

DaemonSeid 06-10-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1939694)
This. You said you thought we were beyond "this" by now and I don't know why you would think that. Despite how well people have learned to hide their racial and ethnic prejudices, they still express them in more anonymous settings or settings where they feel they are around likeminded others.

Late back into this thread, but what's been going on in Arizona and Texas should clearly show the opposite of the US being beyond anything right now.

it's like the real nuts are coming out of the closet en masse.

I chuckle when people think just because the US has a black president racism automatically goes away...

Elephant Walk 06-10-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1941500)
it's like the real nuts are coming out of the closet en masse.

Or is it a response to the nut in the White House?

Maybe the "real nuts" already were out and more responded to the call. (that's what she said)


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