Since the death penalty is probably out of the question in Peru (don't know their laws but suspect there is not a death penalty), I hope he becomes someone's lifetime Peruvian bitch.

It was a school tradition, apparently. They had been doing it for years. The school is in a pretty affluent suburb of Birmingham so it doesn't really surprise me.

Peru does have the death penalty but it's very unlikely that he will receive a death sentence. Peruvian prison is no joke; it will pretty much be a death sentence for him. A long drawn out painful existence that will reach its inevitable conclusion. His only hope is intervention from the Netherlands Embassy to insure his protection and even that will be a reach considering he is a Westerner who will most likely be convicted of murdering a Peruvian woman.

If the Netherlands is smart they'll slip out the back door on this one. He's an embarassment and they shouldn't waste an ounce of diplomatic capital on this guy.

As my mother said "I wonder if he has killed someone every year on this date and we just don't know/hasn't been noticed."

Did I hear correctly on GMA that he confessed? and he reason was that Stephany looked at his laptop? Really?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Media/jora...ry?id=10853209

I heard that late last night, but my computer was acting up. I still can't get over him offering to tell the Hollaway family what happened to Natalee and where her body was for money.

Yes GMA reported this morning that he confessed, and the reason he killed her was because he caught her looking up info on him on his laptop. I'm glad this girl's father is a prominent person in Peru, it gives me hope Joran will be given the harshest punishment out there.

It is NOT connected to the school...groups of students from graduating classes at MBHS went to places like Jamaica and though this trip had the most attendees so far, they were all set up in basically the same manner, but none of them ever had any affiliation with the school.

I'm so glad they've finally caught him, but it is so unfortunate that he was able to murder another girl. If Natalee's investigation had been done correctly, he wouldn't have killed this girl in Peru.

It can be a school tradition without being officially sanctioned by the school. This isn't something that the school would have wanted to take liability for anyway, it's a tradition among the students.

(Why do I feel like I'm having this conversation twice)

Well I disagree with the way it's worded, but it's been a plague on the school since day one. People still claim it is a school tradition when it's not...community tradition would be more accurate. The school caught a lot of flack for a long time for something it actually had nothing to do with. I can't remember how many years grads had been going to Jamaica but I think the class above us was the first to go to Aruba.

(MBHS will not even let "class" trips to foreign countries by Spanish and French classes arrange the trips through them...no idea if that's par for the course for public school systems but I know they've always been particularly careful of distancing themselves from any trips legally. Except athletic events I guess?)

If it's students from the school going and not a group of grads from all over then I think it makes sense to call it a school tradition while acknowledging it's not an official trip.

I went to private school and we took trips that were sanctioned and through tour companies so, I don't know how it works elsewhere.

I get where you're coming from...I should be more clear in that I'm not arguing the point with you actually because you're right, that does make sense...I'm just use to being defensive on that point because so many people put the entire thing on the school.

Any trips we took were through tour companies and the teachers had to book them independently so that the school wasn't technically affiliated in any legal way (I'm assuming that was the point)...except for athletic events I'm guessing, since that's through the school by default. Anyway it was something that parents booked and then advertised through word of mouth. It's ironic it was the biggest trip yet because around half our grade went.

I always knew that his dad helped him cover up Natalie's death. He probably would have taken care of this one had he been alive. I hope he gets what he deserves..

And on a shallow note - this dude IS NOT cute! In fact, he looks psycho! If he approached me I would have ran in the other direction simply based on the "creepy" factor alone. Maybe its the accent....