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preciousjeni 08-03-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1962706)
The city's Landmarks Preservation Commission voted unanimously in favor of an application to end the protected status of the 1850s Italian Renaissance palazzo-style building near the site of the former World Trade Center.

And God smiled.

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...others shouted "shame" and one women held a placard saying: "don't glorify murders of 3,000, no 9/11 mosque" and "Islam builds mosques at the sites of their conquests."
Sit down.

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Boasting a mosque with sports facilities, a theatre and possibly day care, the multi-story Islamic center would be open to all visitors to demonstrate that Muslims are part of their community, not a separate element.
*cheers*

PiKA2001 08-03-2010 01:16 PM

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...w=1211&bih=678

Munchkin03 08-03-2010 01:33 PM

Good on the LPC. Other than a handful of buildings, the neighborhood is not "architecturally or historically significant," which is a huge part in what makes a building worth landmarking.

MasTNX 08-03-2010 01:41 PM

Every time I hear this story, I want to say --- They are not the same people.

It is so bigoted and prejudicial to think that because some bad people CLAIM to be of a certain religion, then all people of that religion aren't to be trusted.

What does a mosque, church, temple have to do with the World Trade Center? NOTHING.
They have nothing to do with each other. Only in the minds of people who like to stereotype and generalize would a building 2 blocks away have anything to do with the victims of 9/11.

I am glad to see that America is moving forward and lawmakers in New York are not that biased.

DaemonSeid 08-04-2010 11:37 AM

http://www.boingboing.net/images/999...round-zero.jpg

Ghostwriter 08-04-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1962711)
Muslims died in 9-11 too.

How many (not including the one's flying and hijacking the planes)?

Insensitive at best to build this so close to "ground zero" but this is NYC's problem.

AEPhiSierra 08-04-2010 02:27 PM

i am very familiar with the area by the trade center having gone to high school over there. the community center would be on one of the less busy side streets because there aren't any popular stores on it. it's mostly side and freight entrances to buildings whose entrances are on its the cross streets. it use to be the home to a burlington coat factory which was one of the many businesses that shut down after 9/11. the building has been sitting there unused in crappy condition for years (i don't recall it being particularly nice when it was in use actually,) it by no means is in a location that would be obtrusive to people visiting the memorial. unless it is covered in neon lights it will be very easy to miss.

it kind of worries me how easy it for some people to speak against this mosque. between this and all the bias crimes that have been happening in staten island its sad that people can live in new york city and still be so xenophobic. for all these people in nyc calling themselves "real americans" chances are if they live in any part of nyc their grandparents or great grandparents weren't born here.

Nanners52674 08-04-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1963360)
How many (not including the one's flying and hijacking the planes)?

It shouldn't matter if it's 279 or 1.

preciousjeni 08-04-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1963360)
How many (not including the one's flying and hijacking the planes)?

Enough, including rescue workers.

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Insensitive at best to build this so close to "ground zero" but this is NYC's problem.
How does a Muslim place of worship have anything to do with terrorists?

knight_shadow 08-04-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1963375)
How does a Muslim place of worship have anything to do with terrorists?

Yea, I was going to say the same thing.

I doubt we'd hear anything like this if there had been, say, a church/reflection area/etc built near a domestic terrorism site.

ThetaDancer 08-04-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1963360)
How many (not including the one's flying and hijacking the planes)?

Why would this matter?

Ghostwriter 08-04-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanners52674 (Post 1963365)
It shouldn't matter if it's 279 or 1.

Why not? That is what the mantra is from supporters and that is the justification used.

Would you agree to the building of a memorial to the Axis War dead next to Auschwitz/Buchenwald/Bergen-Belsen?

A monument to Japanese war dead near the Arizona?

A white supremacist headquarters next to a Civil Rights Museum?

This is just too in your face. I would rather see a building open to all and dedicated to all religions (Judaism/Muslim/Christian/Hindu etc) instead.

But this is just my opinion and in the end the people of NYC have to live with these type decisions which are what I consider "in poor taste".

knight_shadow 08-04-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter (Post 1963385)
Why not? That is what the mantra is from supporters and that is the justification used.

Would you agree to the building of a memorial to the Axis War dead next to Auschwitz/Buchenwald/Bergen-Belsen?

A monument to Japanese war dead near the Arizona?

A white supremacist headquarters next to a Civil Rights Museum?

This is just too in your face. I would rather see a building open to all and dedicated to all religions (Judaism/Muslim/Christian/Hindu etc) instead.

But this is just my opinion and in the end the people of NYC have to live with these type decisions which are what I consider "in poor taste".

The "Official" Islamic Religion didn't coordinate the attacks. A group of individuals (who happened to be Muslim) did.

Not the same as your examples.

Psi U MC Vito 08-04-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1963388)
The "Official" Islamic Religion didn't coordinate the attacks. A group of individuals (who happened to claim to be Muslim) did.

Not the same as your examples.

FYP

Also if you read the Qur' an it quite plainly states that murder is a sin. There is a reason Muslim groups, including the Nation of Islam who isn't even considered to be Muslim by many Muslims, spoke out against the attacks.

preciousjeni 08-04-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1963388)
The "Official" Islamic Religion didn't coordinate the attacks. A group of individuals (who happened to be Muslim) did.

Not the same as your examples.

On a much smaller scale, it's closer to people protesting the establishment of a large Southern Baptist church near a major site of KKK activity. Sounds just as ridiculous to me.


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