Yeah, there wasn't anything as a "homosexual" or a "gay person" until Freud told people there was.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I'd just say that modern understandings and assumptions about sexuality do not necessarily mirror ancient understandings, and confusion is bound to happen if we try to simply impose modern understandings on ancient people without some consideration of the differences.

Uh...ok. Thanks, you now have the choice to read my response or ignore it. :)

I am also not speaking based on a religious and moral standpoint. I am speaking based on the subjectivity of research (across disciplines) and the inability of researchers (across disciplines) to adequately conceptualize and operationalize "homosexuality." Studies have yet to close the debate regarding whether homosexuality is genetic, choice, or a combination. Moreover, sexuality and sexual orientation are social as well as biological, which is partly why the medical field has yet to reliably address whether someone is homosexual based on thoughts and desires or outward manifestations/behaviors. How to capture either in research is a daunting task and I'm sure the research that you're talking about addresses the limitations of drawing conclusions from the data.

In other words, don't necessarily run around saying homosexuals comprise less than 10% of the population without acknowledging the context in which those conclusions were drawn.

With so many people who choose to keep their homosexuality private, I wouldn't rely on studies to state what percentage of the population is gay.

Trust me...I know all about that part of the argument. I don't live in a bubble. I still stand behind my statement. You aren't schooling me in the issues behind homosexuality. Gosh...really, some people don't admit to being gay?! Research is as obtuse as asking a subset of people, "So are you gay or straight?" And if I want to make a statement without a two page disclaimer, I can. The likelihood that their is significant discrepancies from the 10% line is very low. How far from that line do you propose the true line is? 15% 20% 50% I'm not talking about Kinsey's spectrum, either. True single preference homosexuality is realistically under 10% of the population with bisexuality and a spectrum added in going over that. In the end, none of this changes what my original statement was....NO, it is not likely that ALL Greek men are homosexual!

If that DUH moment was the only thing you said (your only point) then I wouldn't have responded. :)

As for the overall tone of your posts, shut up and stop trying to make this dialogue about you.

I think that in the world only about 1 to 5 % is homosexual and then some bissexuals

But even though all Greek men may not be homosexual maybe there is a huge proportion of them :o
Everytime I google '' Ancient Greece sex '' all of the homosexual things come up first

It takes me some time to find heterosexuality there

Why in God's name would you google "Ancient Greece sex"? And why would come here and tell us all about it? Internet perv!! Ineternet perv!!! I NEED A GROWN UP!!!!

LOL

You and these .gifs

there's a lot going on in that .gif

I get them from another message board where the average poster is way more talented than the average GCer lol

Because I wanted to find heterosexuality or sex between men and women in Ancient Greece ?

This is a website for fraternities and sororities (clubs/groups that people join in the United States & Canada at college/universities that have greek letters for names). The information you are seeking wont be found here. Move along.

im SO done with Sen. and LOL @ Athens.

















that party looks like its poppin, though.