Yeaaa! :D I'm so happy for your family, DS!

But keep in mind earthquakes aren't disasters- unless the construction is poor. The Japanese earthquake is in stark contrast to the Haiti earthquake. Both had similar magnitudes, however early reports are saying 2 people have been injured in Japan compared to the devestation in Haiti. Don't get me wrong- Haiti was certainly a disaster, but it was the result of poverty and poor construction that it was a disaster. Not because the earth moved under them.

Japan has basically moved on to being concerend about the possible Tsunami as a result of an 8.8 earthquake in Chilie. When I just searched for an update on the Japan earthquake, all results pretty much pointed to the Chilie quake.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usquakec...phcGFud2FybnNv

I think they're disasters, because it's not just the buildings they effect. The ground moves, and can sometimes come apart, taking things and people with it. And even if the buildings are built to withstand an earthquake, eventually it will destroy those buildings too.

The ground cannot come apart. There can be landslides or spreads, maybe even the occasional sinkhole, but the ground isn't just going to open up. Landslides are typically caused because buildings, landscaping, farming, etc have destabilized the slope. Landslides can also take buildings with it, yes. But once again, no building=nothing destroyed. I'm sure you have the occasional person who is killed/injured by a falling tree during an earthquake but generally, it is the buildings or infrastructure failing that causes loss of life or injury. If you are standing in the middle of an open field, and there is an earthquake, the ground will move, you might fall down, but it is extremely unlikely you will die.

But hey if you would like to add earthquakes as a reason for your disaster/2012 belief, have fun.

I'm positive that 2012 is going to happen, unless we decide to skip the year and go straight to 2013 like how some buildings don't have a 13th floor. I'm more freaked out over 2011; the year I turn 30 (OMFG!).

When I said "come apart" I meant just that, meaning "not together" not stable, and taking things with it. I didn't say or mean "open up" as in crack open and everything falls in. Also, I was speaking realistically. We don't live in a world without buildings. I'm sure if you got a book of natural disasters, earthquakes would be listed. So, I still believe an earthquake is a disaster. If it last long enough, no matter how strong the stucture, it's going to fall.

I don't have a "disaster 2012 belief". I honestly don't know when the world will end. However, when it does, I don't believe it will be by our own planet.

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And why did you have to add 2013? That's the year I turn 30.:eek::(

The only way 2012 could happen would be if all countries/religions were on the same calendar. They are not.

I get what you're saying but its not quite the way it works. The Mayan calender was translated by a western european, so of course thats the calendar he used. The time "it's" going to happen is on Dec 21 2012 at 10:12 am GMT.

i don't see how any predictions about 2012 are very relevant.

if it's the end of us, we'll all be dead anyway. and if it's just another year, some other year will become the next big thing.

the only use to believing in a predetermined end is to live like you're gonna die. which should be happening anyway. if you're focused on the destination you're gonna miss the whole point.

"the journey is the thing." - homer

Was it translated by the Old Style or the New Style?

Do we get that day off of work? We should have a GC Countdown party, like New Year's. If we all live, we'll have champagne and cider toasts.


In case it wasn't obvious, I believe 2012 is about as credible as Y2K.

Don't know, don't care. FWIW, one man was responsible for coming up with that date based on his study of the Mayan calender. There was another researcher who using the same Mayan calender came out with a end date in 1939. So the end of the Mayan calender may have already come and gone over 70 years ago. I'm sorry, but just because they knew math and charted stars doesn't mean they could predict the "end times". I mean really, these guys were sacrificing children to snake gods, couldn't predict their own demise, yet people choose to believe that the end of their calender cycle will bring about the apocalypse. Has anyone thought that maybe the Mayan who was in charge of plotting out the calender was just laid off or decided that 2000 years into the future was good and anything more would just be overkill?

That was an embarassing debacle for the most part. I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. Maybe the world would've fallen apart if not for (God's grace and) the people who kept it from falling apart. :p

eeeeeee! I hadn't heard about the one in Japan! That's so crazy.

That's scary that there are so many of these happening and so closely together