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MysticCat 02-15-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1897140)
HOWEVER, why was Persephone with Hades at the summer solstice? The myth reads that she stays there during winter; it doesn't make sense for her to be there in June. That peeved me more than the other missteps because it was the most obvious.

Sigh. I guess that's another change they must have made. The book is very clear that it was the winter solstice.

Phrozen1ne 02-15-2010 04:19 PM

The movie was o.k. I didn't like the character, Grover. I will have to read to the book to see if it matches up with the way he was portrayed in the movie.

ColdInCanada11 02-15-2010 04:27 PM

I thought it was really good, but then again, I haven't read the books yet. The Persephone/timing thing bothered me, I was stuck on that for a solid 15 minutes after it happened. The other thing that bothered me, how did Athena have a child with a mortal? She was famously virgin. If her child was born the same way she was, wouldn't her child have been a god (no mortal blood involved to "taint" them?) But maybe that's explained in the books?

epchick 02-15-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1897153)
The book is very clear that it was the winter solstice.

Nope. In the book it's the summer solstice--June 21th.

In the book, she's up with Demeter when the trio go down to see Hades. The only reason I can see them including her in the movie is because of the way they changed Hades character (trying not to give too much away lol)

christiangirl 02-15-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1897222)
Nope. In the book it's the summer solstice--June 25th.

In the book, she's up with Demeter when the trio go down to see Hades. The only reason I can see them including her in the movie is because of the way they changed Hades character (trying not to give too much away lol)

But the Solstice is on the 21st. :confused:

Can you PM the change? Because I don't get it! LOL I'm trying really hard to understand over here.

epchick 02-15-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1897252)
But the Solstice is on the 21st. :confused:

Can you PM the change? Because I don't get it! LOL I'm trying really hard to understand over here.

You are right, the 21st. I don't know why I was thinking the 25th.

Senusret I 02-15-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1897346)
You are right, the 21st. I don't know why I was thinking the 25th.

Because June 25 is the best day ever known to humanity.

epchick 02-15-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1897349)
Because June 25 is the best day ever known to humanity.

Is that your birthday? lol. Cause I think the 19th of June is the best day. lol

christiangirl 02-16-2010 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1897349)
Because June 25 is the best day ever known to humanity.

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1897359)
Is that your birthday? lol. Cause I think the 19th of June is the best day. lol

Bump y'all, the party is CLEARLY in August. :p

MysticCat 02-16-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1897222)
Nope. In the book it's the summer solstice--June 21th.

In the book, she's up with Demeter when the trio go down to see Hades. The only reason I can see them including her in the movie is because of the way they changed Hades character (trying not to give too much away lol)

Thanks, I stand corrected. I guess it's been too long since I read it -- maybe I was confusing it with another trip to the Underworld in one of the other books?

pomplemousse12 02-16-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11 (Post 1897163)
I thought it was really good, but then again, I haven't read the books yet. The Persephone/timing thing bothered me, I was stuck on that for a solid 15 minutes after it happened. The other thing that bothered me, how did Athena have a child with a mortal? She was famously virgin. If her child was born the same way she was, wouldn't her child have been a god (no mortal blood involved to "taint" them?) But maybe that's explained in the books?

It's explained in the books. I forget exactly how because they're not right next to me, but Athena was attracted to wisdom and the brightest people of their age, and her children are born from thoughts. It's pretty neat actually.

ColdInCanada11 02-16-2010 02:20 PM

Thanks! That makes way more sense now. I think I'm going to have to read these books

MysticCat 02-22-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1897222)
Nope. In the book it's the summer solstice--June 21th.

It hit me while I was watching the movie yesterday that what I was remembering was that the bolt was stolen at the winter solstice, right?

If I could put the book out of my mind, the movie was good. But it was hard to put the book out of my mind, and it was just a constant stream of disappointments that the story had been watered down or outright changed. I thought that the result was a much less compelling story. (Not to mention, I thought that the books great humor took a hit.)

Really too bad.

epchick 02-22-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1899973)
It hit me while I was watching the movie yesterday that what I was remembering was that the bolt was stolen at the winter solstice, right?

I lent my book to my cousin, so when she gets back today i'll make sure, but I think that is correct. That is when Annabeth and Luke, and some other demigods went up to Mt. Olympus and met their parents (which is why it irked me that it mentioned they weren't allowed to ever meet their parents).


But I agree, I think the movie was very watered down. I will not believe that the book wasn't "Hollywood" enough. Really? People wouldn't wanna see Percy fight a Chimera and then fall through the St. Louis Arch? Yeah cause fighting Hydra was muuuuuuch better :rolleyes:

I thought the book would have made a perfect movie the way it was (although they could have left the smaller things out, like them fighting the dude in the waterbed store, etc).

MysticCat 02-22-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1900029)
I lent my book to my cousin, so when she gets back today i'll make sure, but I think that is correct. That is when Annabeth and Luke, and some other demigods went up to Mt. Olympus and met their parents (which is why it irked me that it mentioned they weren't allowed to ever meet their parents).

Right, and wasn't Percy's class on a field trip near there, or he was home from school or something, which they thought gave him the opportunity to take the bolt at Poseiden's request?

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I thought the book would have made a perfect movie the way it was (although they could have left the smaller things out, like them fighting the dude in the waterbed store, etc).
I agree. But I was particularly disappointed that the whole underlying segment of the total 5-story arc -- why Luke really stole the bolt -- was completely ignored. Way to set up any sequels. :rolleyes:

And Camp Half-Blood was a major disappointment, too. That baffled me as much as anything. Don't they realize that the people who have read the book and can fuel the movie's success want to see Camp Half-Blood look like it does in the books -- complete with the old house, the cabins and Mr D?

BTW, two things to look forward to in the fall: A Percy Jackson graphic novel and the publication of Thalia Grace and the Hunters: The Drakon Slayer.


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