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Barbie's_Rush 02-12-2010 05:23 PM

So I am assuming all of you who are wishing this chapter and GLO the best are in favor of admitting pre-op transgendered people into your GLO and your chapter?

als463 02-12-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1896351)
So I am assuming all of you who are wishing this chapter and GLO the best are in favor of admitting pre-op transgendered people into your GLO and your chapter?

Oh, def. not. I was saying I wish the chapter well, as in, hope they have great recruitment. In fact, I would not be welcoming to someone who was a pre-op transgendered person into my organization, as bad as that may sound.

knight_shadow 02-12-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie's_Rush (Post 1896351)
So I am assuming all of you who are wishing this chapter and GLO the best are in favor of admitting pre-op transgendered people into your GLO and your chapter?

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Originally Posted by als463 (Post 1896373)
Oh, def. not. I was saying I wish the chapter well, as in, hope they have great recruitment. In fact, I would not be welcoming to someone who was a pre-op transgendered person into my organization, as bad as that may sound.

Since when does "good luck" mean "please join my organization"?

Y'all are doing the most.

als463 02-12-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1896374)
Since when does "good luck" mean "please join my organization"?

Y'all are doing the most.

Doing the most? What do you mean?

I meant "good luck" to this organization and I hope all works out for them. I didn't mean for anyone to think I was saying I would want that to happen with my GLO.

xomanadaxo 02-15-2010 04:39 PM

I never intended to express an opinion either way...sorry if it appeared otherwise! This is such a tricky issue...I'm still not entirely sure where I stand and therefore am in no position to take sides! I simply wish everyone the best of luck and hope those involved come to whatever decision is best for the chapter and individuals in question.

MarleneB 02-22-2010 11:49 PM

ALS -- Why would you not welcome a transgender person to your GLO? Uncomfortable about personal grooming issues? Worried about being in states of undress in front of them?

Please remember that gender is between the *ears* and not the legs. They're just as much your gender as you are, dear.

33girl 02-22-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MarleneB (Post 1900299)
ALS -- Why would you not welcome a transgender person to your GLO? Uncomfortable about personal grooming issues? Worried about being in states of undress in front of them?

Please remember that gender is between the *ears* and not the legs. They're just as much your gender as you are, dear.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but as far as legal issues are concerned (and this is a legal issue) gender IS between the legs. Once they're post-op and have driver's license, birth certificate etc changed over, they're welcome to join. The thing is that unless you started your journey at age 15 or so, there aren't going to be a lot of post-op people who are college age.

VandalSquirrel 02-23-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1900303)
Sorry to rain on your parade, but as far as legal issues are concerned (and this is a legal issue) gender IS between the legs. Once they're post-op and have driver's license, birth certificate etc changed over, they're welcome to join. The thing is that unless you started your journey at age 15 or so, there aren't going to be a lot of post-op people who are college age.

Not to mention the financial issues that face Trans people of all ages, let alone college students who may have lost any and all familial support, including health insurance and are barely able to afford food and a roof over their heads (if they aren't discriminated employment wise) let alone the cost of surgery and hormones.

33girl, some states, like the one I live in BOOOOOOO, do not allow a person to change their birth certificate. I find that so unacceptable and wish that the law would change.

atoheadlines 04-27-2010 10:31 PM

Doesn't a transgender person go against the good morals that Fraternities and Sororities were founded under?

33girl 04-27-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922123)
Doesn't a transgender person go against the good morals that Fraternities and Sororities were founded under?

You really are an idiot. Do you even know what transgender means??

knight_shadow 04-28-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922123)
Doesn't a transgender person go against the good morals that Fraternities and Sororities were founded under?

How so? I want to see how your dumb ass tries to elaborate.

MysticCat 04-28-2010 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922123)
Doesn't a transgender person go against the good morals that Fraternities and Sororities were founded under?

Fraternities and Sororities were founded "under" morals? I'm trying to figure out how that works.

atoheadlines 04-29-2010 12:19 AM

All of you get off it! Everyone of your founders would roll in their gaves if you were saying you accept a transgender person into the organization. This is why isn't one big group of coed, It was founded by men for men and women for women. Greek organizations were founded by Christian students. Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

33girl 04-29-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922818)
All of you get off it! Everyone of your founders would roll in their graves if you were saying you accept a transgender person into the organization. This is why isn't one big group of coed, It was founded by men for men and women for women. Greek organizations were founded by Christian students. Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

Again, do you understand what the term "transgender" means? I don't think you do.

knight_shadow 04-29-2010 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by atoheadlines (Post 1922818)
All of you get off it! Everyone of your founders would roll in their gaves if you were saying you accept a transgender person into the organization. This is why isn't one big group of coed, It was founded by men for men and women for women. Greek organizations were founded by Christian students. Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

Random undergraduate knows any and everything about everyone's' organizations. Nice.

I hope my founders (alive) don't roll in their gaves over this comment.

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