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I tried to keep my mouth shut but I just can't!
I'm going to address a few things based on my past and current experience. Basically, the question you have posed to us is unanswerable by us. We do not have enough information.
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Most (if not all) organizations, as well as Universities themselves, have a policy that states who is eligible to be a member. In the Inter/National organizations, this policy usually includes the phrase "fully matriculated student in good standing at the institution where XYZ is chartered." During the semester in question, you were not fully matriculated nor in good standing at said University (based on the information you have provided). Quote:
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Overall, it sounds like your membership status was problematic from the start. It's quite possible that for whatever reason you were never "official" with the organization's HQ (if this organization has a HQ...I'm still not 100% clear on that). If this is true, once the HQ figured that out you could be instantly dropped without due process because you were never officially associated with the organization. Judicial/Standards Board hearings can also be conducted without the accused party present (depends on the policies) if the accused party was given proper notice and opportunity to appear. If you really want to know if they did anything wrong, read the Constitution, Bylaws, and Procedures of the organization, as well as the Greek Life Policies of the institution where this occurred. The answers you seek are in those documents. PsychTau |
I'll side with you on the fact that getting a job isnt necessarily always a choice. I had to work 4 jobs one year to make ends meet and my involvment in my chapter dropped a lot. The chapter could have part of me or none of me that year. Thats life.
However your story doesnt seem to add up completely. The red flag for me is that a majority of your "brothers" deleted you from Facebook. There are plenty of people in my Facebook profile who I've friended that I really dont care for, but I complied just to be polite. Having a friend on facebook doesnt really require any effort...and from my experience, people only delete others for 3 primary reasons. 1) You post incessantly and they find you annoying 2) They are passive agressive and want you to know that you're no longer on good terms 3) They really f*cking dont like you and want nothing to do for you I could see if maybe a brother or two unfriended you...but almost all of the chapter did? And you're crying innocence? Somethings not being said. So with the other posters, I have a hard time believing that you're tellings us even 70% of the story. Either way, it sounds like you have other stuff to settle first and you already belong to a brotherhood so life isnt so bad huh? |
Judging from your past posts and your very brief description of your situation and membership status, it's fairly obvious what organization your in, and I can assure you that the members of this fraternity didn't make a mistake in their processes. While it might not seem extremely polite or fair of them to not give you a reason for your termination, they haven't violated any of their processes.
If you have any other questions, you can PM me. As a member of this organization, if my assumption is correct anyway, I might be able to answer some questions you have. Also, you're allowed to be president. Well, not anymore I guess. But you were. |
PsychTau-That is usually how a dismissal works. However, with me, they just skipped over all that. I confronted them about it and they pointed me to a clause in the undergraduate catalog which says that is the standard procedure but basically they can do anything they want.
The greek life director quite possibly just made a mistake. It was her first week on the job when the president asked her about me. It's also possible that the president lied to the entire fraternity so that I could participate because we are so few in number. I was at many, many meetings. My post only says that I have not been at them this semester. The past two semesters I have been. The nominations in question were last semester. I was never official with the national organization. Only the local chapter. However, I'm not in charge of submitting paperwork so this is an error on their part, not mine. xp2k-Do you not understand from my previous posts that I am telling all I know? I can't possibly tell you the whole story since they have never told me why I was dismissed. It's not that I'm withholding information. I don't have it myself. I believe that it's either option 2 or 3. I've had very limited communication with them outside of meetings and events so it's not option 1. I agree with you about my other brotherhood. Those brothers are not on this campus but they are standing beside me. They even let me rejoin their chapter at a college 40 miles away. D-Phi362I'm not talking about Sinfonia. They are the supportive ones. I don't think any of my past posts reveal the current fraternity. I will PM you to see what house you are in. |
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I talked to our faculty advisor today. The chapter tried to dismiss me without informing him. He postponed the decision so he could defend me.
The vote to dismiss me was unanimous. They said they felt unsafe around me, that I was a danger to them and that I had sent them messages on Facebook that scared them. The advisor blocked them from going to campus police to file a report about me like they wanted to. However, they'll probably do it anyway. The reason they gave was these Facebook messages. A couple of weeks ago while I was at work I started getting texts from people asking why I sent weird messages. Turns out my account had been phished. They sent messages to everyone on my friends list from A-G. Some of them had no content and others had links. I don't know what the links were. When I checked my sent messages my computer would not open the links because it said it would harm the computer. This isn't uncommon. I've got a few weird messages like that. Phishing isn't an uncommon thing. I sent an email to every single person who was sent a message. I said that the account had been phished, I changed the password, and it shouldn't happen again. I can't do any more than apologize. But seriously, I don't think that they are that big of drama queens. They're just using it as a cover for their real reasons. Contacting the police and saying they don't feel safe makes it look like they are the victims. I have a clear conscious and the advisor believes me. Hung out with some alums this weekend that simply don't care. And as you all pointed out I still have my other brothers. |
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Maybe the phish caused the food poisoning outbreak.
Seriously, this is like a sequined pantyhose story in reverse. |
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Why would I not be civil? Or the better question is why would I be? I will speak to my big, the alums, and those who didn't delete me. They are still my brothers. |
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Your advisor shouldn't be sticking his nose in things. That's not a good way for an advisor to be. He should accept the will of the organization and move on. Is he not a member?
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Technically the faculty advisor can't postpone the chapter decision. He doesn't have to approve it or sign off on some form before it is sent in to nationals, so he really has little room to stop them from proceding.
I suppose however that he can ask them to delay sending in the paperwork and making it official and to speak in front of the chapter on your behalf, although from the sounds of how things are this is only going to alienate him from the chapter. But its whatever, whats done is done. |
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Sorry things haven't gone well. I sent you a PM. |
Sorry, but no one has all of these tragic circumstances, negative reactions from other people, and supposed persecution happen unless they have actually done some things to deserve them. Either you're not telling the whole story on purpose or are refusing to recognize and take responsibility for your personality causing all of these problems. There. I said what lots of other people are thinking. Look inward, because all this stuff that happens to you is not circumstantial. That's obvious just from your posts here.
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