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DrPhil 01-30-2010 11:30 PM

Daag, Senusret I is such a mind reader.

Phrozen1ne 01-31-2010 02:35 PM

Well, according to this, that particular chapter of Zeta Tau Alpha learned how to step from the AKAs on their campus. This should be an interesting documentary. Too bad I don't have mtv2.

Senusret I 01-31-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne (Post 1891235)
Well, according to this, that particular chapter of Zeta Tau Alpha learned how to step from the AKAs on their campus. This should be an interesting documentary. Too bad I don't have mtv2.

If I see a single ivy-stance in their routine, I am booing.

They have hot Matrix-inspired costumes though.

DrPhil 01-31-2010 02:56 PM

I expect the non-NPHCs to learn from NPHC, so no surprise there. Having some level of AKA help is not the worst thing in the world (I'm being tolerant) and it's better than hiring a formal coach.

Phrozen1ne 01-31-2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1891240)
I expect the non-NPHCs to learn from NPHC, so no surprise there. Having some level of AKA help is not the worst thing in the world (I'm being tolerant) and it's better than hiring a formal coach.

I definitely agree. On my campus we had the Ebony and Ivory (I hated that name) stepshow where NPHC and non-NPHC teams would be paired together to put a routine as one team. It was very entertaining.

DrPhil 01-31-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne (Post 1891243)
I definitely agree. On my campus we had the Ebony and Ivory (I hated that name) stepshow where NPHC and non-NPHC teams would be paired together to put a routine as one team. It was very entertaining.

LOL. That is a HORRIBLY outdated name.

So, on that note, if ZTA was to win, I would nod my head in acknowledgement of their stepping skills but really credit their win to the AKAs who taught them the tools and routine.

DST4A00 01-31-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1891244)
LOL. That is a HORRIBLY outdated name.

So, on that note, if ZTA was to win, I would nod my head in acknowledgement of their stepping skills but really credit their win to the AKAs who taught them the tools and routine.

Ooh good point! Well the show was fascinating (all 30 mins of it) guess I'll have to tune in next week. They seem to focus more on the drama between the individual members of each org (No surprise there:rolleyes:) than the stepping itself. I really can't see a winner based on the overwhelming lack of stepping.

G-Kue 1911 01-31-2010 05:21 PM

Am I the only one that shook my head several times during the 1st episode?

Senusret I 01-31-2010 05:23 PM

Depends on what you were shaking your head at.

rhoyaltempest 01-31-2010 10:36 PM

What sorority and fraternity won 1st place?

DrPhil 01-31-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DST4A00 (Post 1891256)
Ooh good point! Well the show was fascinating (all 30 mins of it) guess I'll have to tune in next week. They seem to focus more on the drama between the individual members of each org (No surprise there:rolleyes:) than the stepping itself. I really can't see a winner based on the overwhelming lack of stepping.

Actually, I kind of take what I typed back. The AKAs taught them 16 years ago. I assume they've learned and built their own traditions since then.

I missed the show. What drama? Are they trying to do a Real World/soap opera from it? :rolleyes: I just want to see steps. Is that too much to ask? Of course it is--especially from something geared towards the mainstream.

honeychile 01-31-2010 11:57 PM

Please excuse the crash, Zeta Ladies.
 
I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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DrPhil 02-01-2010 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1891376)
I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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Not being told the rules isn't what we're talking about. ;)

However, 10-15 years ago, the NPHC orgs at the schools that I've attended and worked with had the exact same experience as that AKA chapter you're typing about. :) If everyone's going to be included, everyone should be told the rules and it should be understood that not every group will be able to fit with the rules. Then, if it's not a mandatory activity like Panhel meetings and Greek Week are at many schools, the groups can decide to bow out gracefully if need be.

rhoyaltempest 02-01-2010 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1891376)
I should probably keep my mouth shut on this, but here's my two cents:

When I was in school, AKA was the only NPHC sorority which sent a delegate to the Collegiate Panhellenic meetings. They decided to take part in Greek Sing that year. Nobody thought to ask them what it entailed, just gave them the same rules everyone else got (how many members, background music v. a cappella, etc). They didn't think to ask.

So, Greek Sing came, and all of the IFC fraternities & NPC sororities showed up in their highly detailed costumes, prepared music, and sang the Broadway standards or classic Neil Diamond, Beatles, or whatever songs. Then the AKA sisters took the stage - in their line clothing, doing step songs. Everyone could tell that they were scared and in shock, and for a second, nobody clapped at all. I'm proud to say that the ADPis and the fraternities we were sitting with all stood and clapped and whistled for them, then everyone else also clapped.

One of these days, we're going to quit blaming each other for not getting the rules straight, and instead, make sure that everyone's on the same page BEFORE the problems start. We're going to realize that there are culture differences which shouldn't divide us, but unite us by their very differences. It starts here, folks, on places like GreekChat, so long as we don't tear each other apart to do so.
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You totally missed the point. If you care, go back and read thru all the posts although it is possible that you just won't get it. And that's fine too.

dreamseeker 02-01-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1891080)
GOOD for YOU.

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