Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG (Post 1890176)

It sounds like FLOC is similar to what many bands have as "families" or when people "pledge their section"...

many people go on to join Tau Beta Sigma while others feel as though their section / family is more than enough involvement.

Tau Beta Sigma is a co-ed organization. This can get complicated at schools with both a chapter of TBS and KKPsi - but, we're still family.

The thing to remember though, as with other orgs and chapters, membership is all about "fit."

Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG (Post 1890176)

Tau Beta Sigma is a co-ed organization. This can get complicated at schools with both a chapter of TBS and KKPsi - but, we're still family.

Originally Posted by UofISigKap (Post 1890156)

I saw EIU and got all excited because I remember them going co-ed when I was there. (Yes, I transferred to Illinois later which doesn't have either band organization; it's in another thread. Anyway...) Prior to 1996, KKPsi was male only, and TBS was strictly female at EIU. That fall, a male TBS member transferred to EIU from another school. Both KKPsi and TBS decided to become co-ed, and he could then stay an active member of TBS. They are both still co-ed, but from my understanding, only TBS takes in guard members now. The KKPsi chapter no longer does, unless they play in a winter/spring ensemble, I think??

ETA: The allowing guard members is specific to the chapters at EIU not a blanket statement.

Originally Posted by harreled (Post 1890126)

Honestly, in the band, we are see as that 'cute little guard club' and we aren't taken very seriously because we don't have letters. If FLOC were to become a sorority, we would be recognized as a more legitimate organization, we would be able to do more and be able work on par with the other band service fraternities/sororities.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1890183)

This is the first time I've heard about it being co-ed. Probably because many men don't join TBS. LOL.

Okay, TBS co-ed sorority and KKPsi co-ed fraternity.

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1890183)

This is the first time I've heard about it being co-ed. Probably because many men don't join TBS. LOL.

Okay, TBS co-ed sorority and KKPsi co-ed fraternity.

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 1890227)

Generally if a school has both orgs, they have men pledge KKY and women pledge TBS. If a school has one or the other, it acts as a coed. There isn't much preventing men from joining TBS or women joining KKY because of thise situations, even if a school has both orgs.

Originally Posted by chickenoodle (Post 1890237)

Indulge me please. If the women join the fraternity, they are also called brothers. And if the men join the co-ed sorority are they also brothers, while the women are sisters? I can't imagine most guys would be ok with being referred to as a sister...

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX (Post 1890227)

Generally if a school has both orgs, they have men pledge KKY and women pledge TBS. If a school has one or the other, it acts as a coed. There isn't much preventing men from joining TBS or women joining KKY because of thise situations, even if a school has both orgs.

Originally Posted by Still BLUTANG (Post 1890294)

i've learned in my 13 years as a member, and serving in various local, district, and national capacities that this, while it *would* make sense, is not necessarily what happens.

Originally Posted by chickenoodle (Post 1890237)

Indulge me please. If the women join the fraternity, they are also called brothers. And if the men join the co-ed sorority are they also brothers, while the women are sisters? I can't imagine most guys would be ok with being referred to as a sister...

Originally Posted by harreled (Post 1890033)

I know there is already a Drumline fraternity (Phi Buda Ruda) and several Band service fraternities (KKPsi, TBS, PMA) . . . .

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1890391)

Just for the record, Phi Mu Alpha is not a band service fraternity; it's a social fraternity. KKPsi and TBS are the only band service fraternities with which I'm familiar.

Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 1890417)

Every time I see someone call Phi Mu Alpha anything other than a social fraternity, I just shake my head an wonder when you're going to pop up and educate them!