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Psi U MC Vito 01-05-2010 12:58 AM

I had no idea had something like a universal health care system.

preciousjeni 01-05-2010 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1880841)
According to Rush Limbaugh, the health care reform that may be passed by Congress is socialism. Yet, it bears a striking resemblance to the universal healthcare system that just treated him in Hawaii that prompted his remark: "there is nothing wrong with the American health care system. I received no special treatment."

Yes, Rush. That's the point! American medicine is superb--for those who can get it. And, in Hawaii, no one gets special treatment, because everyone can get it.

[Er, by the way, just to help you out, Rush, a fair percentage of your listeners do not know Hawaii is part of the United States, so clarify that for them...otherwise, they will wonder about you]

By accepting socialist medical treatment in Hawaii, therefore, Rush Limbaugh has shown that, when one is ill, what matters is the availability of quality health care, even if it is socialist.

Rush follows a long litany of conservatives, such as all Members of Congress that have a medical office paid for by taxpayers available in the Capitol, by Dick Cheney who had socialist pacemakers implanted paid for by the government, and George W who had a government-paid socialist colonoscopy while in office. Members of Congress over 65 get single-payer socialist medical care from Medicare.

Hawaii has had nearly-universal employer-mandated health insurance since 1974. Although its Pacific Island location makes the costs of everything--from gasoline to milk to ice cream to housing--the highest in the nation, health care premiums in Hawaii, for comprehensive care with small co-pays and deductibles, are nearly the lowest and their costs per medicare beneficiary are the lowest in the nation.


Limbaugh Lauds (Socialist) Medical Care in Hawaii...YMMV

*Running to tell my uber-conservative father* :p

als463 01-05-2010 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1880841)
According to Rush Limbaugh, the health care reform that may be passed by Congress is socialism. Yet, it bears a striking resemblance to the universal healthcare system that just treated him in Hawaii that prompted his remark: "there is nothing wrong with the American health care system. I received no special treatment."

Yes, Rush. That's the point! American medicine is superb--for those who can get it. And, in Hawaii, no one gets special treatment, because everyone can get it.

[Er, by the way, just to help you out, Rush, a fair percentage of your listeners do not know Hawaii is part of the United States, so clarify that for them...otherwise, they will wonder about you]


By accepting socialist medical treatment in Hawaii, therefore, Rush Limbaugh has shown that, when one is ill, what matters is the availability of quality health care, even if it is socialist.

Rush follows a long litany of conservatives, such as all Members of Congress that have a medical office paid for by taxpayers available in the Capitol, by Dick Cheney who had socialist pacemakers implanted paid for by the government, and George W who had a government-paid socialist colonoscopy while in office. Members of Congress over 65 get single-payer socialist medical care from Medicare.

Hawaii has had nearly-universal employer-mandated health insurance since 1974. Although its Pacific Island location makes the costs of everything--from gasoline to milk to ice cream to housing--the highest in the nation, health care premiums in Hawaii, for comprehensive care with small co-pays and deductibles, are nearly the lowest and their costs per medicare beneficiary are the lowest in the nation.


Limbaugh Lauds (Socialist) Medical Care in Hawaii...YMMV



I'm confused by this whole Healthcare debate because from where I stand, I've seen people on the system get healthcare, while I got NOTHING as a college student in graduate school. Is this to help us push through for healthcare for people like ME in grad school/ law school or is it to give more HANDOUTS to the same people know how to play the system. Please explain. I'm not being sarcastic-I'm being honest. I really don't know.


So sad (about Americans not knowing about Hawaii)...yet, so true. My boyfriend's brother once told me that those damn Puerto Ricans (which I am) need to go back to their own damn country. I asked him where Puerto Ricans come from and he gave me a blank look as he replied, "I don't know-Mexico." Wow-Just WOW!!!

DrPhil 01-05-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by als463 (Post 1881080)
So sad (about Americans not knowing about Hawaii)...yet, so true. My boyfriend's brother once told me that those damn Puerto Ricans (which I am) need to go back to their own damn country. I asked him where Puerto Ricans come from and he gave me a blank look as he replied, "I don't know-Mexico." Wow-Just WOW!!!

whoa what an idiot.

This loosely ties into the transgender thread. What he said is completely dumb and wrong but it makes sense to him and those who feel as he does. Many of those people would also sport the conservative umbrella because they don't know that conservative isn't synonymous with dumb and bigoted.

als463 01-05-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1881094)
whoa what an idiot.

This loosely ties into the transgender thread. What he said is completely dumb and wrong but it makes sense to him and those who feel as he does. Many of those people would also sport the conservative umbrella because they don't know that conservative isn't synonymous with dumb and bigoted.

Hahaha. Yes, he was confused when his daughter wasn't doing so well in Social Studies. Gee, I wonder. :rolleyes: Yes, I hate when people say, "I'm conservative," as their means of letting their bigoted ways be seen as acceptable since they already labeled themselves as such.

I have to admit, I would have an issue with a Transgendered President.

KSigkid 01-05-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1880526)
Actually the story I read said it was done for the purpose of increasing the advertising for his show. Apparently he was not getting the amount of advertising that he thought was acceptable and so he pulled the stunt to get the numbers where he wanted them.

I can believe it. I have heard that he has lost some advertisers because of things he has done or said.

Would the number of advertisers really make that much of a difference, though? I thought he had a pretty sweet radio contract with a solid salary. I can't imagine that the number of advertisers would make a big difference unless he was getting a big cut of the advertising revenue.

AGDee 01-06-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by als463 (Post 1881080)
I'm confused by this whole Healthcare debate because from where I stand, I've seen people on the system get healthcare, while I got NOTHING as a college student in graduate school. Is this to help us push through for healthcare for people like ME in grad school/ law school or is it to give more HANDOUTS to the same people know how to play the system. Please explain. I'm not being sarcastic-I'm being honest. I really don't know.


The whole healthcare debate is EXACTLY about people like you. People who have too much to qualify for Medicaid programs, who are full time students, who are working full time but their employers don't provide health insurance, the uninsured and underinsured. It is for the people who own a house and make $30,000 a year but can't get health insurance because they are diabetic (pre-existing condition). It is for the entrepreneur who wants to quit his/her job to start a small business but can't because their family is reliant on the health insurance the employer provides. The indigent have access to stuff. The homeless have access to stuff. These are the uninsured and underinsured. These are the people that health care reform is targeting.

deepimpact2 01-06-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1881276)
Would the number of advertisers really make that much of a difference, though? I thought he had a pretty sweet radio contract with a solid salary. I can't imagine that the number of advertisers would make a big difference unless he was getting a big cut of the advertising revenue.

:confused:

KSigkid 01-06-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1881543)
:confused:

What I meant was that, if it's not affecting his bottom line by a large amount, I don't understand why he would do something like this as a publicity stunt. I could only see him doing it if he was losing large amounts of money.

Bar exam prep has already melted my brain, so I probably wasn't as clear as I inteded in my first post.

deepimpact2 01-06-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1881621)
What I meant was that, if it's not affecting his bottom line by a large amount, I don't understand why he would do something like this as a publicity stunt. I could only see him doing it if he was losing large amounts of money.

Bar exam prep has already melted my brain, so I probably wasn't as clear as I inteded in my first post.

I think it WAS affecting his bottom line by a large amount which was why he allegedly pulled the stunt.

When do you take the bar? July?
I'm somewhat envious of you right now. Even though bar prep is rough, at least you're already there. I am officially a 2.5L and I can't wait to
G-R-A-D-U-A-T-E! (okay end of hijack)

KSigkid 01-07-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1881631)
I think it WAS affecting his bottom line by a large amount which was why he allegedly pulled the stunt.

When do you take the bar? July?
I'm somewhat envious of you right now. Even though bar prep is rough, at least you're already there. I am officially a 2.5L and I can't wait to
G-R-A-D-U-A-T-E! (okay end of hijack)

I'm taking two bars in February; I'm a January graduate so I'm doing the "off-season" bar exam and bar prep. Good luck with the rest of school!


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