From my understanding, they are close to becoming a chapter. I do understand why the school may have an issue. I was told that the original 2 guys who started Kappa Sigma's Fort Myers colony were rude to the IFC at FGCU. That was a big mistake. Those men are no longer with the fraternity because they were kicked out. This grudge should no longer be held. Despite me not being a Kappa Sig, nor a student at FGCU I know unjust treatment when I see it. This hits close to home because I have family members that are Kappa Sigs. I am just proud to see a fraternity willing to stand up to a school and the IFC and not take no for an answer. I am pleased that these fine young men are dedicated for a cause. I do not know any of them, but their story is truly remarkable. The school might call them rebels, but I call them dedicated young men who are willing to stand up for what they believe in. They should not have to wait to be members a fraternity. That is why they colonized off campus. My brother is a Kappa Sig at North Florida and my cousin is a Kappa Sig at Johnson and Wales in Miami, so they inform me about what is occuring. From what I hear, FGCU had better let them on campus soon. Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power. They are not to be messed with. I have read about a lot of controversy happening at FGCU over the years. Trust me. FGCU can't afford any more bad publicity.

What exactly can Kappa Sigma do if FSGU refuses to recognize them?

Okay sure. I want a frat coming on my campus that threatens us. That sure is helping the cause.
FGCU is one of the fastest growing schools in the country, if not the fastest. I'm sure we'll be fine if IFC doesn't allow Kappa Sigma on campus.

I was orginally going to talk about how SigEp was an underground fraternity for a couple years and then was allowed back on campus, but forget that now.

LOL -- Power to do what?

I thought you were a FIJI? Stop swinging on Kappa Sig's nuts.

Okay, I'm sorry, but that made me laugh. FGCU "had better let them on campus soon." Why? Can you state at least one good, clear reason?
"Kappa Sigma nationally has a lot of power." And? What will Kappa Sigma do? Get the Florida State Legislature to revoke FGCU's ability to grant diplomas? Lose their credentials?

What was my prior statement? Oh, yes: That's not how it works.

Most people couldn't give a crap on a cracker if Kappa Sigma charters at FGCU or not. You are taking this way to serious and giving Kappa Sigma national way too much power.

I'm not sure I would let an anonymous person on the internet, who isn't even a member of Kappa Sigma, have such a strong influence on my opinion of the organization, if I were you. But, to each their own, I suppose.

I'm sorry. Its finals week. Lack of sleep+mass amounts of diet coke= a few over reactions throughout my day :)

good luck with your finals, jenny.

To clear all the air, do not listen to ryquis. I am a Kappa Sig at UCF. I am very aware of the situation with Kappa Sigma at FGCU. What happened was, students approached FGCU about starting Kappa Sigma. FGCU's IFC was not willing to expand for a legit reason. They had just let Sigma Chi on campus. The students instead decided to go straight to Kappa Sigma's national headquarters and asked to start. Nationals approved. Thus Kappa Sigma was colonized as the Fort Myers,FL colony. The conflict got worse when the original grandmaster of Kappa Sigma decided to be rude to FGCU's IFC. That was a big mistake. You do not bite the hand that feeds. But, this guy is no longer a part of the colony because the members voted him out. He was thus depledged and kicked out of the colony. The Kappa Sigma colony is getting to better terms with FGCU and the IFC. The colony has new leadership and is respectful to the IFC and FGCU. They are doing lots of philanthropy and they are following IFC rules despite not being recognized by campus yet. I see this conflict being resolved soon and them being let on campus. Of the original 25 that started the colony, only 6 remain. They have recruited a much better quality of young men who are taking the colony into a better direction. They are close to becoming a chapter. But, I believe they are willing to wait to be let on campus before chartering. Everything is going to be fine. Its just a matter of time. The reason they are allowed to colonize and charter off campus is because Kappa Sigma, along with Phi Delta Theta, and Phi Sigma Kappa broke away from the IFC nationally(North-American Interfraternity Conference) back in 2002. Thus they do not have to be on a campus to govern. But, I do see everything getting cleared up soon and Kappa Sigma being let on to FGCU's campus. Everything is going to be all right.

I appriciate you taking the time to explain everything. Thank you very much :)

thanks rex. i do hope things work out for kappa sigma at fgcu-sounds like they are headed in the right direction. a friend of the family has pledged your ft. myers chapter and he is a really good guy who comes from a good, politically active(and connected) family-this family(and the son) spends a lot of time doing volunteer work. if your other members are like him, they can't help but succeed.

Yea. Realistically, I see them getting on FGCU's campus Fall 2010. They want to get on campus ASAP. But, I think Fall 2010 is fair enough. One of my good friends from high school pledged the colony this semester. Compared to last year, they are getting to better terms with the IFC and the fraternities and sororities on campus. I know that FGCU told sororities not to associate with them, which I can understand to some degree because they don't want to risk losing your charters. But, I do believe socials could be done as long as there was some advisory and rules and conditions. I'm confident things will get better. There is usually some conflict when Kappa Sigma tries to start at certain colleges and universities. A similar situation is occuring with our Pi Theta chapter which has been trying to get on the campus at Coastal Carolina University for 2 years. They colonized and chartered off campus and were still passed over when their IFC opened up for expansion. I don't think a situation like this will happen at FGCU though.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but can we clarify "rude"? I mean, if the IFC told them they couldn't colonize and KS said "oh yes we can" they're not being rude, they're stating a fact. Some people classify telling the truth without sugarcoating as rude.

I mean I kind of have a problem envisioning a national fraternity officer dropping f bombs and/or flipping the bird, no matter how upset he was.

Oh ye of little faith.

Grandmaster is a term used to mean president of the local chapter IIRC.