Sorry, but you don't need to be a moderator to SEARCH the boards. Many opinions and protocol issues have been discussed often enough to know how certain things need to be addressed.

'Nuf said...



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

I guess I was somehow mislead by this statement which appears when you ask to search private forums:

"Only administrators and moderators may search through all private forums."

There is no way for every single person posting on this board to know all the "unwritten" rules especially when those rules seem to change frequently http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

"In Need" got the advice she was seeking. Allie got her beating. I got "defensive". And the Plumbers Association just called to demand Union Rights. Can we please move on now??

Yikes! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif

I know I'm probably gonna get flamed for this, but after a 1/2 hour of In Need's issue on my mind, I'm gonna speak my peace anyway.

In Need, from someone who is not in a NPHC GLO, but knows enough about the culture to pass for one (9 years experience), here's what I have to say.

Move on! For real, if what you said was true and National HQ blew it off, ask yourself if you really want to be involved with those who blatently disrespected you and made no apologies for it, from Nationals on down. Yes, I know about prospectives being required to have a strong love for the organization, but I also know that love does not tolerate disrespect, especially one as bold and unadulterated as what you discussed.

As for looking into another org, that is a very loaded question. Ordinarily, I would say don't do that, but after what you experienced, if you do happen to seek another org, I am not going to lean over your shoulder and cry out "FOUL!" either. I would say to wait awhile and do a LOT of soul searching should you decide this. While your safest bet is not to pledge ANY NPHC org--OTOH, there are a growing number of Black non-NPHC orgs to choose from who IMHO are not as stringent as the NPHC about their org being a prospective's first-choice. The best thing to do is to take it to the Lord in prayer and let Him guide you.

Best wishes in your decision.

RM

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In Need-

I sure hope you are serious about your accusations because posting this on greekchat can launch an investigation into your allegations based on reading your profile...

I am not saying this to make you feel intimidated. I really feel sad http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif that this was the only outlet you had to make your feelings know about the NPHC Sororities and one in particular.

You are not to feel intimidated about making a decision to join, to apply for membership, be initiated and eventually a member about any NPHC Sorority. If you have, that is not what we are about. And that means we have failed our Founders, our mottos and our creeds we live by.

I cannot believe that any responsible ADULT has not met your need and allowed this dangerous and destructive person to continue on in this manner!

Are you sure this NPHC affiliate's HQ's knows? That's is pretty unusual if they let this continue... I sure hope you're telling the truth here. And has this NPHC affiliate chapter had a Rush? If so, how are you sure you're going to be blackballed? Do your parents know about this? Am I missing something?

There are NPHC National Officers that frequent GC. And there are some lawyers...

AKA Monet,

Yes I am 100% sure this is all true. I was there when it happened and am currently involved.

Their HQ do know what happened and they did NOTHING!!!!! The only thing they did was tell them that they could not have rush this semester. They all know about it. Grand Basileus and Graduate chapter and The President of the HQ and everyone knows and STILL NOTHING WAS DONE!!!!!

This person throws the fact that she got away with somethig she started EVERYTIME my friends and I see her. we live close together and at all times of the night we would hear their call. Then we look outside and they are being loud and obnoxious talking about us. I mean this is really sad, but yet this is what we deal with almost everyday.

I mean it really makes you think about being in an org. The only things that are holding my interest are my drive to do it, the fact that its in my heart, the fact that this is a challenge, and the fact that I know a lot of "good" Greeks and a few "bad" Greeks and the fact that she said that I will never be in XYZ as long as she is.

She said that she was going to blackball me by telling everyone in this chapter and in the Gradaute chapter about me and my friends. She said that as long as she lives or is in XYZ, my friends and I will never be.

And right now she is right because she is the president of the chapter.

As stated before:

1) there are MANY graduate chapters

2) there's more than one way into an organization.

3) you won't know you're blackballed until you apply.

4) if you're turned down and it's truly in your heart, as you say, try again.

5) if you do happen to apply to the same graduate chapter that she's a member, her objections probably won't carry as much weight because she'd be new to the chapter.

Take all of this into consideration and above all PRAY ON IT.

I won't even try to answer your question about trying to join another sorority, because only you can answer that, but I do have a question for you. Did this death threat/knife pulling happen on campus? What is the administration's take on all of this? Has she been brought up on any type of charges on the campus even though you said the police could not fine the knife? I don't know about your state, but if there is some type of phyical confrontation, and the police is called, SOMEBODY is going to JAIL. Too many times the police has been called out, told the folks to separate/cool off/ whatever, then someone comes back 15 minutes later and the other person is dead.

Then, In Need:

I think it's time to tell you parents or an Adult who you can trust and get a lawyer because apparently, no one in this organization is taking you seriously about what's going on... This cannot continue like this! You are being harassed! That's crazy!

If their HQ has done nothing about it, then it's time for you to notify your school.

If that doesn't work, then it's time for you to consult a lawyer and sue for assault and battery. And forget about joining the organization at this time because, this person is dangerous, not only to you, but for this organization. That's just my opinion.

I can't believe any of MY SORORS would continue badgering a person like that. I know my sorors would have nothing to do with them... But popping up into your face???

Your question is valid: What if something dangerous happens to somebody??? That's hazing. Goto the http://www.nphc.org to see the joint statement on hazing and keep reading it till you understand it because you can't become a member in the NPHC if you've witnessed it and did nothing about it... Evil festers when good people sit around and do nothing...

Or goto the media...

[This message has been edited by AKA_Monet (edited March 13, 2001).]

To AXO Alum, I did not indicate that she should search 'private' forums. There IS a search mechanism on the Greek Life board http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif which is where MOST of the discussions reside http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif .

I'll be glad to let it go if I am quoted correctly....bye!



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MCCOYRED
Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

Yes she pulled the knife out on campus. She has it on her at all times and its a butterfly knife. She never leaves home without it.

Administration knows about it and so do the police. The administration told her to move out, but when she moved out, she moved right across the way so that when you look out of my friends window you can look right in to her room. Now, she moved out on her own and choose the room. Normally, they are not suppose to be that close together, but thats where she lives because her soror is there also.

The police know about it because we filed reports and they searched her car, body, and room for this knife. THEY DIDNT FIND IT!!! They didnt find it because she gave it to her soror and therefore, she didnt have it on her for the search which would have she kicked out of school and in jail for having it.

When she made the threats she did it in front of me and about 9 of her friends which still doesnt matter because none of them are going to snitch on her because they still chill with her.

Thats what im saying, what if hse would have hurt my friend that night. When she had the knife out like that. But i guarantee you if my friend would have gotten hurt i know that that chick would be hurt in the worst way. There is no way in the world that i would let anything happen to my friend while im here. I dont care who or what we have to go through, but thats my take on that. I told that to her, the police, the dean, Nationals HQ, and anyone else who knows about it.

This S**T is ridiculous because they are grown A** women acting like they are in middl school. Its stupid and sad.

In Need

Lord Have Mercy http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif


I haven't posted in greek chat in a long, LONG time but please In Need,

PUT THAT HEFFA IN JAIL NOW!!!!

If that doesn't work just pray for the Lord to handle this situation. You don't have to kiss anyone's but to get along with them and especially, you don't have to live in fear of ANYONE. This "woman" obviously has some SERIOUS MENTAL PROBLEMS. Lord knows I don't condone violence but... anyway she needs help, and you need to put her in jail and press charges. If you suspect her sorors are holding the knife she attacked you with, you will have to call the police on the sneak to catch her with the knife if you are to ever catch this chicken. Oh and believe me, NOTHING in this world will go unpaid because the Lord says, do on to others as you would have them do on to you. ABOVE ALL ELSE PRAY!!!


MAN THIS STUFF GETS ME REALLY STEAMED!!!

Hey Greekchat long time no type http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

Diva_56

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by In Need of Advice:
[B]This is for anyone.

What would you do....

http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif Although I'm not a member of a NPHC organization I have to agree with a lot of the other members by saying just go for whats in your heart because you might regret you alternate choice later in life. I was in a similar situation not to long ago. In my case the person of the organization was trying to get me to turn against my friends and talk to me in order to make my friends jealous and seem as though she and her sorors wanted me in their org http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif , what she didnt know is that I was cool w/ her because I was bored and that I like meeting new people(and for some reason she knows a looooooooot of people);I also wanted to be in a completely different organization http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif te-he-he@her. Like you I feel that doing things like throwing ones organization and friends in someone elses face is very childish. Also you need to take the advice of one of the postings and have shorty girl locked up AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! I dont know about your state laws,but I know that where I'm from a threat is potential to get locked up for a couple of hours if not a good amount of time or put on some form of suspension.Also butterfly knifes are illegal here!! Even though there looks as if there is no hope now,just keep your faith..and she will get what is coming to her. If all of your accusations are true there will be a loophole somewhere and the truth will come out. Until then find out other ways that you might be able to get into your org. of choice and as AKA_Monet stated look into maybe getting a lawyer or telling someone that you can trust and can do something(because you might be able to get her for slander too,since she lied on you and your friend). Anyway I'm gonna end this novel...Know that you are in my prayers, and that you can do anything if you want it bad enough.


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**Not yet, But NOW!!**

O.K. enough is enough....Honey, the least of your worries right now is what sorority to pledge! If all of these things are true. There are some serious issues!! The police, school administration, local graduate chapter and National Headquarters all refused to do anything? You have 9 (I think I am remembering the number correctly) so called friends who witnessed this and they refuse to testify and/or say anything? File another police report for harrassment, get a restraining order. File an official complaint with campus administration. After you do all of that, move on!! Surround yourself with people who care about you and concentrate on your academics.