Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1804629)

I love animals, but wow. Just wow.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1804585)

If I was his agent I would tell him to:

1. Volunteer for a tour of duty in Iraq
2. Train hard for special forces
3. Write a book about his life after he got out of the military
4. Sign million dollar NFL contract as he is now "reformed"

I think that he's suffered enough already and would like to see the guy succeed. Its funny that we allow people who have taken other people's lives (Leonard Little, Ray Lewis) in the NFL but if you hurt a dog then they send out the lynch mob.

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1804642)

What the guy did was terrible, and he deserved the penalty he received. But, at this point I think he's served his time and should be able to pursue whatever employment he chooses.

Now...if NFL teams are staying away from him for a legitimate reason (bad PR, fear of repeated behavior, concerns about actual football skills at this point, etc.), that's a different story. He was a young athlete who made a series of horrible choices, and lost his image (as well as part of the prime of his career) as a result.

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1804585)

I think that he's suffered enough already and would like to see the guy succeed. Its funny that we allow people who have taken other people's lives (Leonard Little, Ray Lewis) in the NFL but if you hurt a dog then they send out the lynch mob.

Originally Posted by TexasWSP (Post 1804649)

Had Roger Goodell been commish in 1998 you can bet that Leonard Little wouldn't have played football again.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1804651)

Well hey...if Paris Hilton can walk for DUI............... :)

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1804641)

I agreed with you right up til you got to Ray Lewis.

There was (and still is) never 100% proof that he killed anyone.
Overwheming testimony never showed that he stabbed anyone but acted as a peacemeker thru the incident.

He was tried and found innocent for the alleged crime. Also, he is paying a settlement to the family of the murder victim....so let it go.

You would have been better served by saying Lawrence Phillips or Rae Carruth (although Rae is RIGHT where he belongs)

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1804661)

Either way, this says something about what public percetion is after you have 'paid for your crimes'.

You pretty much get a scarlet letter for the rest of your life which is why in some cases we tend to see a lot of repeat offenders.

Agreed?

Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1804685)

I know parties involved in the settlement and he is very responsible for what happened. I don't want to give too much away and get anyone in trouble but he deserves to be in jail, not on the football field.
Rae is not where he belongs- he belongs six feet underground.

Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1804623)

This is kind of a bizarre thing to say - first, because I haven't seen anything resembling these statements since he started serving his sentence (so you seem to be reading a lot into this). Can you cite anything in particular that gives you this impression? Or is it just general cynicism?

Second, the "to him, it was just a dog" portion seems like an odd choice of damnation - to you, it's a family member. To him, it's not. Why is he more 'wrong' in the abstract (i.e. removed from the actual cruelty)?

The guy's pretty f-ed in general - it'll take something extreme on his part to entice a team to suffer the PR backlash of taking a chance on him years after his last productive season (and there were general questions about productivity even then). I can relate to the anger and outrage, especially from dedicated animal lovers, but the guy's served his time and will now serve a very public penance. That seems like enough for me - he's lost the overwhelming majority of everything.