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DaemonSeid 04-12-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1799087)
Does no one take issue with the fact that the guy had a gun on his porch period? Since when do people have the need to just have a gun chillin on the porch.

And the if the cops had just reason to believe that their life is in danger, they can legally shoot at the suspect. they look up and see the old man with a gun, pointed at them, then yes, they have the right to shoot him. And if they shot and killed him, they obviously aren't that untrained.

Just cause people are from Louisiana, it doesn't make them racist, it doesn't make them barbarians, and it sure as hell doesn't make them automatic morons. I honestly don't even see where race could come into this equation, sure the two cops were white, the people were black, it could have just as easily been the other way around, that doesn't really fucking matter until people make an unjust huge deal about it.

Slow down....

1. What if the gun was legally registered?

2. There are conflicting accts about if the man had a gun

3. It could have just as easily been the other way around but it's too commonplace for white officers to shoot and kill black citizens for no one to take notice,

PhiGam 04-13-2009 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate2512 (Post 1799087)
Does no one take issue with the fact that the guy had a gun on his porch period? Since when do people have the need to just have a gun chillin on the porch.

And the if the cops had just reason to believe that their life is in danger, they can legally shoot at the suspect. they look up and see the old man with a gun, pointed at them, then yes, they have the right to shoot him. And if they shot and killed him, they obviously aren't that untrained.

Just cause people are from Louisiana, it doesn't make them racist, it doesn't make them barbarians, and it sure as hell doesn't make them automatic morons. I honestly don't even see where race could come into this equation, sure the two cops were white, the people were black, it could have just as easily been the other way around, that doesn't really fucking matter until people make an unjust huge deal about it.

If it was a legally registered firearm then he was fully within his rights to have it on his front porch. I don't take issue with people exercising their constitutional rights- especially if they live in a bad neighborhood such as this and need to be protected.

DaemonSeid 04-13-2009 07:51 AM

Some interesting tidbit culled from some other articles about this story:

A Legacy of Hostility Towards Black Residents:
Police hostility towards black residents was an open secret:
"People here are afraid of the police," said Terry Willis, vice president of the Homer NAACP branch. "They harass black people, they stop people for no reason and rough them up without charging them with anything."

That is how it should be, responded Russell Mills, Homer's police chief ... "If I see three or four young black men walking down the street, I have to stop them and check their names," said Mills, who is white. "I want them to be afraid every time they see the police that they might get arrested."


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http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-03/45610822.jpg
Bernard Monroe is seen in a family photo clutching a large sports-drink bottle, as he was on the day he was shot.

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Four witnesses said he was sitting outside his home in the late afternoon on Feb. 20 -- clutching a large sports-drink bottle -- when two police officers pulled up and summoned over his son, Shawn.

Shawn Monroe, who has a long record of arrests and convictions on charges of assault and battery but was not wanted on any warrants, reportedly ran into the house.

One of the officers, who had been on Homer's police force only a few weeks, chased after him and reappeared moments later in the doorway, the witnesses said.

Meanwhile, the elder Monroe had started walking toward the front door. When he got to the first step on the porch, the witnesses said, the rookie officer opened fire, striking Monroe several times.

"He just shot him through the screen door," said Denise Nicholson, a family friend who said she was standing a few feet away. "After [Monroe] was on the ground, we kept asking the officer to call an ambulance, but all he did was get on his radio and say, 'Officer in distress.' "

The witnesses said the second officer picked up a handgun that Monroe, an avid hunter, always kept in plain sight on the porch for protection. Using a latex glove, the officer grasped the gun by its handle, the witnesses said, and ordered everyone to back away. The next thing they said they saw was the gun next to Monroe's body.

"I saw him pick up the gun off the porch," Marcus Frazier said. "I said, 'What are you doing?' The cop told me, 'Shut the hell up, you don't know what you're talking about.' "






One of the more interesting things to note, however is that when all was said and done, the son was NEVER taken into custody.

Makes one wonder if this was a case of mistaken identity.

RU OX Alum 04-13-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1799170)

Makes one wonder if this was a case of mistaken identity.

I doubt it. It sounds more like pre-meditated murder. And when they couldn't get the kid, they shot the old man instead.


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