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texas*princess 10-29-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by preciousjeni (Post 1737724)
Wellll...people gave him that money so that he could do it. :D

yea that's what I was thinking... those people gave him money on their own free will. :confused:

And I think maybe this (the whole infomercial thing) hasn't been done because it's REALLY expensive... and he has a ton of money that was donated ... and the election is only a couple of days away... might as well use the money. Maybe no prior candidates thought about trying to do something like this before?

VAgirl18 10-29-2008 11:13 PM

Obviously his campaign doesn't need any more advertising. I'm a Republican and ready to accept that the Dems are going to be in the White House. I just saw no point in even having the infomercial when he could have just given the money back and said that other people could use it more. He should practice what he preaches..which is exactly what he does half of the time..preach.

VandalSquirrel 10-29-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1737656)
I could care less about the world series, but I acknowledge that I may be in the minority about that. Right now, I can't even recall what I do watch on Wednesday nights.

But it's clearly propaganda (which all of these things are), and it is blatant. It REALLY disturbs me.

I'm voting for him because he most closely aligns with my values, but I just really have a suspicion that I'm going to end up in a camp with a pink triangle on my chest if I ever disagree with him.

If it comes to any camps get on a plane, train, or bus and I'll drive you into Canada. I could have you safely in Creston, BC in under four hours. Go get your passport ordered if you haven't already!

Leslie Anne 10-30-2008 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1737736)
I just saw no point in even having the infomercial when he could have just given the money back and said that other people could use it more. He should practice what he preaches..which is exactly what he does half of the time..preach.

That's not how things work with campaign contributions. McCain won't be returning any of his unused funds back to the people who sent them either.

VAgirl18 10-30-2008 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1737770)
That's not how things work with campaign contributions. McCain won't be returning any of his unused funds back to the people who sent them either.

Candidates ARE allowed to give the money to charity or other campaigns as long as they aren't spending it for personal use. He should have donated the money to charity instead of buying the infomercial..it would have been better for his campaign.

AGDee 10-30-2008 05:29 AM

The laws vary by state. I looked it up last week because someone asked what happens to the extra money in one of these threads. It's insanely complex.

DaemonSeid 10-30-2008 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne (Post 1737770)
That's not how things work with campaign contributions. McCain won't be returning any of his unused funds back to the people who sent them either.

or the 150,000 on Palin's wardrobe...for that matter the clothing either

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1737785)
Candidates ARE allowed to give the money to charity or other campaigns as long as they aren't spending it for personal use. He should have donated the money to charity instead of buying the infomercial..it would have been better for his campaign.

Look at it like this...it was aimed at undecideds and for those who STILL aqt this point 'don't know' what Obama's plans are if they watched should have a better idea now.

I thought if nothing else, it was a good idea without debate atmosphere or some kind of circus going on, know what his plans are.


Cracker, here is the exact quote I was looking for:

"It used to be that only rain or some other act of God could delay the World Series," he {McCain} said. "But I guess network executives figured an Obama infomercial was close enough."

The Obama campaign did not ask that the game be delayed, said a spokesman for Fox, which broadcasts the World Series.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...cle/index.html

and after seeing what happened last night, the game would have been over on Monday anyways....not to mention is was one of the lowest rated World Series in recent history.

ThetaDancer 10-30-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1737736)
Obviously his campaign doesn't need any more advertising. I'm a Republican and ready to accept that the Dems are going to be in the White House. I just saw no point in even having the infomercial when he could have just given the money back and said that other people could use it more. He should practice what he preaches..which is exactly what he does half of the time..preach.

It actually seems like you're not at all ready to accept this. You keep pressing a non-issue.

ThetaPrincess24 10-30-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by VAgirl18 (Post 1737717)
Why did he pay for the infomercial when he could have given the money back to those who donated so they could give it to the people who really need it...you know, start practicing the spreading of wealth? :p

EXCELLENT point!!!

I have a question for those who thought it was scary and propaganda-ish--If you think that and are slightly worried then why are you still voting for that guy? There are other people running for president besides mcain and obama (they dont have a chance in hell but it's still your vote and your voice).

I'm just glad I was in choir practice at church instead of being at home. i was saved from watching that phoney.

ThetaPrincess24 10-30-2008 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1737752)
If it comes to any camps get on a plane, train, or bus and I'll drive you into Canada. I could have you safely in Creston, BC in under four hours. Go get your passport ordered if you haven't already!

Canada wont save you from him and his minions :)

summer_gphib 10-30-2008 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1737706)
Here's my question - was the infomercial viewed by "undecided" voters, or was it an Obama lovefest, watched by those who are already true believers? I find it hard to believe that anyone - other than my mother, and that's a story all unto itself - is really undecided at this point in time. Am I totally wrong in thinking that? Surely someone gathered up viewer data for the program.

I think there are many "undecided voters" remaining. My husband and I have already voted, and we're still not sure we voted the right way. There are things we truly admire about both men, making it a very difficult decision for us (and I'm usually a stright party voter). There are pros and cons to both-- we admire and like McCain but detest Palin. We really think Joe Biden has a lot of experience, but we're not sure Obama can keep his promises, and has the experience needed.

So for us it was rough. We did break from our normal party and voted for McCain-- despite Palin, certainly not because of her. :o

Senusret I 10-30-2008 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1737798)
EXCELLENT point!!!

I have a question for those who thought it was scary and propaganda-ish--If you think that and are slightly worried then why are you still voting for that guy?

Because he still aligns with most of my values. McCain aligns with few.

ThetaPrincess24 10-30-2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1737805)
Because he still aligns with most of my values. McCain aligns with few.

A lot of folks out there I would say align with my values but that certainly doesnt mean they belong in the White House (or anywhere else in government) and wouldnt get my vote.

Senusret I 10-30-2008 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1737809)
A lot of folks out there I would say align with my values but that certainly doesnt mean they belong in the White House (or anywhere else in government) and wouldnt get my vote.

But why would I vote for the OPPOSITE of my values? That would be stupid.

DaemonSeid 10-30-2008 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24 (Post 1737809)
A lot of folks out there I would say align with my values but that certainly doesnt mean they belong in the White House (or anywhere else in government) and wouldnt get my vote.

That is why one must be well informed about the candidate that they vote for...you would vote for the person that relates best to you, it makes no sense to vote for someone who does not have your well being in mind.


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