It was just something that I could see happening. if someone is apart of a local sorority and no one ever sees you after you are initiated, that's a problem. If she can't do anything while she is on campus, do you really think she is going to help out when she has graduated from Harvard? If you are famous and you NEVER did one thing for your organization, you are just another name on the roster. I rather have a sister that is successful in her own life and is financially or physically aiding my sorority, than someone who is famous and doesn't give a d*!n about my organization.

i just wanted to say i think the little activity they did with poking the holes into the paper whenever they agreed with a negative statement...and then had to open it up to see it was a picture of the sorority with holes all over them...i thought that was a very effective little project. its a good way to get the point across that every little negative thing you do as a person...effects your sorority as a whole.

on the other hand...i think someone said earlier that she thought it was funny how meena didnt show any emotion when the actives were depledging her...yet she cried when the other pledges cried. welll...would you cry in front of people that were kickin ya out like they never cared in the first place? i know i wouldnt. she cried with the people she was connected with. its sad when the only sisterhood you feel...is through the pledges and NOT through the actives.

i dont believe this sorority has strong enough sisterhood to survive.

Exactly, we have to remember this is a local sorority and the sisters/alumnae at this chapter are ALL the sisters/alumnae there are. I don't think anyone is ripping on Condoleeza for not coming to participate in Greek Olympics, LOL.

The picture thing was a very, very good illustration - kudos to whoever thought of it. But there is NWIH I would run around getting groceries for anyone unless there was a physical reason they couldn't. That was out of line.

mmmm Stan, tempting offer....as long as there are no skanky chicks in your room looking for their belts I will consider it. :D

Wow that's a bold statement. To me, it says a lot that they never had to tell someone to leave the a pledge class before Meena and have existed since 1994. I guess some organizations don't mind if you don't show up to any events.

Now that I think about it... why should the actives think that the sorority is just as important as her dance groups? Why didn't they understand that the sorority was just one of the things on her list of "Things to do While in College?" It's just a sorority... The nerve :rolleyes:


I didn't understand why they had to buy the actives groceries either. They could of thought of another activity that got the same point across without requiring them to use their own money. But the hole punching activity was good. I wish I could borrow it...

1) it is a bold statement...but to let MTV portray your sisterhood in ways that you may not necessarily want them to...is also a BOLD thing to do. i just dont believe (and i am allowed to have an opinion) that their sisterhood is strong...maybe i am bias because i come from a sorority...and a chapter...with AMAZING sisterhood, and i just dont see that represented on the show...which is all i have to go by.

2) about the whole "things to do while in college...its just a sorority...the nerve" thing...i dont believe the sorority should come last on her priority list, but i think its good that meena is so involved with other clubs and organizations. i know some sororities around here that REQUIRE their ladies to be involved in at least ONE other organization (and i actually think they are required to have a leadership position as well...or something like that)...its not to take attention away from their beloved sorority...its to get your name across and make your sorority KNOWN everywhere. i DO believe meena wasnt putting her all into the sorority yet, but who's to say she wouldnt have? we have had new members that we had doubts about at first because they were so involved with other stuff...yet they have come out to be some of our BEST sisters!

I really think that while she coudl've come to more events she was trying to make this work out and obviously did put the sorority on her list, I mean sure there are some tough decisions... I recall a post where a lady was missing pref to go to her soccer game or not play soccer anymore. I mean how many of us would join a sorority if you had NO time for ANY other outside activities ? I know I wouldn't. As long as my sisters make an effort which to me Meena did by skipping a NATIONAL competition with her dance team which I SURE she got TONS of crap for missing for "sorority" AND her pledge class didn't even think that she was missing that much and supported her choices and priorities, then I say she's got the makings of a great sister. I can understand if she was showing NO caring at all for being at events, but she did, and the way they did it was shady as well, not even telling the other members of her class was messed up, and giving her no fair warning I wouldn't appreciate that.

Well it looks like that I'm just going to have to agree to disagree about the Meena situation. I am from a small sorority and maybe I would feel different if I was apart of a chapter that had over 30 active members in it. I don't know.

My sorority likes for people who are pursuing membership to be officers in other organizations also to show that they can handle the responsibilities of a sorority not necessarily to be only walking billboards.

I do agree that prior notice should have been given to Meena regarding possible DPing. Also, buying groceries for the actives, a big no-no.

I don't think the problem here is that Meena has no time for ANY activities. I think it's that she is clearly does not have ANY time for the sorority. Her priorities lye in her (3) dance teams, etc. Also, about the competition she missed out on, "Bhangra Blowout" practices for this competition are INTENSE. She would have had no time at all to pledge if she had done it. My cousin was on USC's team this year, that's how I know.

Many arguments here seem to stem from the different viewpoints regarding membership for each organization. Could it be that organizations with smaller chapter size expect their members to step up and take officer roles and be leaders, while larger chapters, 30 or more members, can let most members slip through the cracks, since there are usually other members who want to lead anyway? Maybe members of larger organizations can enlighten us on this one.

I disagree. Every organization is not going to educate new members in the same way. Some are so critical of ZSP's policies for new membership education. Why should their process be so much like yours? Part of what makes an organization stand out from the rest is these slight differences. Again, I disagree with grocery shopping and DPing someone on the fly.

What was up with the activity the actives made the pledges do with a folded paper (a picture) and a pen? I understand they wanted the pledges to punch holes in the paper in response to various questions. However, I was baffled by the point of it and that the actives saw little hope of the pledges being initiated into ZSP.


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The point was that everytime you say or do something negative it is like driving a dagger through your sisters' hearts. When you keep being negative it takes what was a pretty picture and ruins it.

I agree with everyone, really liked the hole punching activity... the groceries thing was just chaotic, and again, another mission that is scheduled so late! I mean for me, I'd have no problem with it since I usually went to bed at 2:30 or 3a.m. during school, but I know girls who go to sleep at 12:30a.m. because they need to get a certain amount of sleep. And they have 10 missions per week?! The actives seemed so cold toward the pledges when they were like you failed.

i just want to clarify...i did not say their new member education period HAD to be exactly like what i went through or how my sorority accomplishes things.

i am happy that they have differences because you are right...differences are what make us all so unique and what makes us stand out from others!

as i said earlier, i was just stating that i dont believe their sisterhood is being PORTRAYED ON MTV as very strong at all.

i dont believe that larger chapters can allow for some of their members to slip through the cracks...our chapter has had close to 100 members and each girl is required to do just as much as another.

also, i wasnt stating that the sorority who requires sisters to be in at least one other club do that with the intention of being ONLY A WALKING BILLBOARD...its GOOD to be known on campus, but it also promotes responsibility.

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Anyone know what's going on with the doublesweetie site? Nothing new's been posted about SL3 since mid-Sept.

HI There,

Phi Sigma Sigma requires that all sisters be part of at least two other organizations - work and/or family (marriage, kids, etc) can be one of the outside organizations. But you don't have to have a leadership position in the other organization. The idea of involvement in two outside orgs is not to only promote Phi Sigma Sigma but to also make sure you become a well-rounded person who's, not someone who's whole life revolves around sorority and nothing else.

Carolyn

I guess we're seeing why Carmen goes...