Brazil uses a lot more ethanol than we do here, and many cars are equipped to run on 100% ethanol. They can also make it more effectively from sugar cane, which grows much better on a large scale down there than it does here.

Diesel was $4.40 at the "cheap" place. Thank God we're not doing a lot of traveling this summer, even with the good mpg we get.

The diesel prices are what amaze me. It doesn't matter so much for my wife and I, but my dad's truck runs on diesel (he's in construction/remodeling), so he's had to put a much larger chunk of the money he makes on jobs towards travel costs. It's insane the amount of money he spends in a week on gas.

For a few years, the Shell station on the corner gives you a few cents discount if you come inside to pay with the credit card. I've always thought was a bit shady so I rarely go there.

There was a story on the news about using debit cards...some banks will put a hold of more than the purchase price until they figure out how much you actually paid...don't ask me to elaborate, I don't remember the specifics, lol.

First time I've ever filled up my Altima for $60:(

Theirs a place in my town that has four corners with gas stations on three of them. The other day the prices were like $4.15/gal at shell, $4.10/gal at mobil, and $3.98/gal at the little no name station. The amazing thing there were cars getting gas at the $4.15/gal station i wanted to go up to them and be did you not look across the street why are voluntarily paying .17cents more a gallon!!!!

Some people are gas snobs. A friend of mine refuses to use AMPM/BP no matter how much cheaper. He says Mobil and Shell are better for the car.

gas is gas is gas.

true, except you should always use the same grade, prefferbly the suggested octace rating for your car.

you could hurt your engine/gas millege if you don't.

I've said it before, it doesn't matter what the sign or pump says, there is no guarantee that that is ExxonMobil gas coming out of that ExxonMobil pump. It's all a marketing strategy. Also the no name brand station gets to control their prices based on the delivery price, so they only change their prices when they receive delivery, Marketed gas stations like ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, and such are forced to change their prices as soon as they are told to.

^^^Per AAA, that is not 100% correct.

please enlighten further...

yes, that is true.
87 is the same at Wawa, ExxonMobil, BP, HESS, Sunoco, Shell, Texaco, where ever..

I dont need higher octane so why spend the 0.20 cents more per gallon for it? lol

I PM'ed you as it seem as if other do not care for info.

yeah i read that, interesting stuff...but still, if you have one of the 5% then you need it, but if not, it is a waste of money.

Which is why i said check the gas cap/owner's manual (should be the same, if not, something is wrong)

Agree.

Look, I'm in the oil and gas business. My father has been in it for 32 years. He is a vp in one of the largest producers of natural gas in the united states. I'm not telling it from a one sided point of view here. I'm telling you like it is........I'm failing to see the reason why you keep trying to argue this with me. Did you not read a single article I posted? It's right there, spelled out, in plain English. They won't let you drill off of Florida because of environmental "concerns". They won't let you drill off the coast of California because of environmental "concerns".

I never said there weren't environmental reasons to *not* drill. If I did I didn't mean to. That really means nothing to me though. These days there are "environmental concerns" for doing just about every single thing you could possibly do. When I go buy a bag of dog food, there is a potential for "environmental concern".

If it weren't for "environmental concerns" there would be off-shore drilling rigs off of the California Coast. The waters where the leases are located to drill in are all within federally regulated boundaries....there isn't supposed to be a damn thing they can do about.

However, this is where legislators out there get shady. There are plenty of loopholes in the system where if a "study" shows that oil and gas companies didn't take the necessary steps to ensure environmental protection then they can override the federal governments authority in the matter. If they can show a "potential" for future problems, they can override the system. Well.....that last part pretty much causes everyone to be shit out of luck. The process that goes into creating a well is extremely technical and you have to go through tons of safety checks, geological checks, geographical checks. etc. etc. You can put a well in the safest environment on the planet........doesn't mean there isn't a potential for something bad to happen.