There are comments being made in this thread that do nothing but further the bad impression that so many have of greeks.

I'm still going with the actives on this one. I thought they handled the situation very well.

I know some of you think it was wrong to kick Meena out in the middle of the process. But think of it this way, if she lived in a apartment and didn't pay her rent her landlord has every right to evicite her. The sisters were nice enough to let her keep her stuff there,but ask that she sleep else where. That's their right.

They have only had three events. I also think her big sister didn't really try to get to know her. From what I could see, she has been at most of the meetings for pledging.

I think it was wrong to not tell her she had one day to get out and then kick her out like they did. You can argue that if she did this at her job or at her apartment, she would have been on the street, but THIS IS NOT HAPPENING because she didnt pay her rent or she slacked off at job. She gave up her apartment when she moved in and she probarbly arranged to have it subleased and such. It just isnt fair to expect her to be able to move out while she is trying to go to school and such.

Also, what evidence did the sisters present that she has been spreading things about the sorority (MTV, secrets). Obviously heresay goes a long way for those girls. I know a lot of gossip on my campus happens because people are looking to start trouble with others.

I hate the whole attitude that people have to prove they want to belong to a group. Its kinda like they have to go out of their way to get someone to like them and that the sisters do not have to do anything to make the girls feel comfortable or accepted. I think local sororities should be under panhellenic rules about rush and hazing and such, and have a more positive outlook on people joining than "proving"

Pledging for me was great. We didnt have this crap about people missing events and we were treated as equals with the sisters and they helped us along the way.

we only saw three events on screen. I think someone mentioned this was the 4th week of pledging, so I am guessing there were many more events than what were shown. as far as hearing about her saying she was only there for MTV, I would guess that they heard that from friends at school, where MTV can't film at all. Please do not fall into the trap of thinking if it didn't happen on screen, it did not happen. They film these women 24/7 for 2-3 months and edit it down to the 9 most conflict-filled hours they can.

That is wonderful that you didn't have probs with people missing events, but I am guessing if you had a pledgesister who never came to anything she wouldn't be initiated, "equality" with the sisters or not. They didn't terminate Meena's pledgeship in the nicest manner, but it has nothing to do with making her prove anything. She was not only doing what was expected of her as a pledge, she was not doing what was expected of any sister - I'm sure if they have a sister who consistently misses events she is disciplined as well. All NPC groups have attendance policies - it's part of being a responsible sister.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT!! From what I can piece together, there were more events than the three events organizated by the actives. The pledges had meetings all the time. Does anyone remember the pledge meeting that they had to BEG Meena to come to and it was at HER own house? And please don't say that a midnight meeting is too late because when I was in college, most of my friends didn't START studying until midnight. It wasn't like she had to travel far to get there.

There were MANY times when I was so tired that I was near tears and someone called a meeting for one of my Church groups or sorority. Did anyone have to beg me to get out of bed? NO My church is 45 minutes away from my home but I still drove down there WHENEVER they needed me. I have been up to 3-4 o'clock in the morning trying to plan an event with my sorority, even though I had class 8:00 the next morning. And you want to know why? BECAUSE I CARED. Maybe MTV edited all the times Meena helped out with her pledge class, but it's really funny how all the pledges outside of the house didn't see it either. When Meena told some of her pledge sisters that she wasn't going to be there for two important events, to me she had an "oh well" attitude. She didn't act really upset about it.

Why is it asking too much for them to want to see Meena act like she wants to be there? I would agree that they should of given her a warning, but Meena isn't stupid. She knows she couldn't get away with that type of behavior in any of her other groups, so why should she expect to get away with it for the sorority?

agreed...it's just unfortunate that the visuals showed them removing her so poorly. she should have left the house immediately and not remained to upset he other inhouse pledges.

I have to go with TNXbutterfly, on this one, I am behind the actives. I guess because in my organization and the other ones on my campus, pledging is different. That stuff she pulled would not have let her last so long. I mean you she is wasting no only her time but the time of the other pledges and of the actives. She really didnt want to be in a sorority, she just wanted to add it to her list of things.

I missed out on last week's episode. I know that they show the previous week's episode before showing the new one. Does anyone know what time it will be aired? I want to see the reactions of Meena getting the boot from ZSP.

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It's probably re-run at 9:30pm, half an hour before the new one.

Someone said that we don't get to see everything and so if we didn't see it that does not mean that it didn't happen. Well then the same goes for her doing and saying good things. This is Meena's last semester and after that she's going to grad school at NYU. If those girls had even half a brain they'd realize how good that would make their sorority look and the potnetial for having a successful alumna in the future. That's the problem with the all the people on these shows, they don't think of anything past like a month....In the end they will suffer for it.

Who cares how good she will make the sorority look if she is never there? Sorry, that is one excuse I've heard many many times and it just doesn't wash. When you have a smaller chapter there is no time for the "special guest stars" who have a resume a mile long but are never around.

*Conversation at the Zeta Sigma Phi Informational *

Sister: Our most famous sister, Meena, just received the Nobel Peace Prize this month. We are so proud of her.

Interest: Wow, I'm sure she comes around all the time.

Sister: Ummm, not really. We haven't seen her since she was initiated in our sorority.

Interest: Oh, well I'm sure she always sent financial contributions to the chapter.

Sister: Well, no... She never helped out with anything with the sorority.

Interest: Does anyone talk to her?

Sister: Well, no.. but she sent us an autographed picture of herself once.

Interest: Is anyone friends with her?

Sister: No *puts head down and walks out of the room*

Can we make out later?

I wish people would understand that small chapters at big schools have to operate differently. That's #1 on the list; you can't have 30 members on your active roster when only 15 show up to anything....it's a big difference between 30:15 and 90:50

Okay, they made the pledges get groceries? Bump that. I'd NEVER make a pledge do that for me. That's degrading. It's like they are the sisters personal assistant (nice word for personal slave). I'm really not feeling this season.

And next episode doesn't look good either....:rolleyes:

Mylife, your comment didn't make sense.....Condelezza Rice is probably our most famous alumni along with Trista Rhen, but have I ever met them no, are they my friends, no.
Anyway, this episode....no one is really discussing...it was pretty boring....though I think next week may be the end of Carmen, which is too bad cause she would have made a great active but they just beat the desire to be one right out of her. These women are terrible to their pledges and I wouldn't be surprised if this sorority does not last.