Despite who or when a comment was made...(I think virtually everyone has been guilty of this at some point). Can I ask at this point we all get away from the bashing, and talk about the actual issue?

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No. What more is there to say about the "actual issue?"

Well since they're being so "discriminated" against, I thought I would add a pic of their compadres at the Birmingham riots.

FAIL.

And I'm curious why you think that just because I find your legal arguments unpersuasive, I support fraternities being kicked to the curb with no recourse. One position does not equal the other. And just because a policy is bad or stupid doesn't mean it's unconstitutional.

I'm also curious why you studiously avoid answering simple questions put to you over and over again.

Sorry :(

2nd try

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ma87/llama.jpg

LOL. Yikes.

I got what you were saying with the first one. You just have to be careful not to appear like you think there's anything laughable about the Birmingham riots.

Oh, I definitely don't. I think there's something laughable about a student who can't get a meeting room on campus comparing himself to people who weren't allowed to be admitted into most colleges.

Oh, MysticCat - pick your favorite fallacy!

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

MysticCat - did you see this part?

I am curious your thoughts on this part

If I got it right, you did apply for recognition by the IFC and were denied, right? Since you all keep talking about a vote in which (allegedly) the chapter reps did not vote how they were told to by their national HQs, I'm guessing yes. So I don't understand where "equal access to even attempt to apply for recognition" is coming from. You already had that.

Not exactly. The school claims that Kappa Sigma has not applied; which is why they are not being allowed to use school facilities. However, the truth of the matter is; until the news story aired, the school refused to provide the necessary form to even become an RSO.

Being a student organization, and being a part of IFC (another student organization) are seperate issues.

In fact, no application has been accepted from either the school or the IFC. The vote discussed, was a vote called by the members of Kappa Sigma during the IFC meeting. No actual written application has been granted (prior to the news story).

Post news story, there is a current debate regarding whether or not a fraternity can keep its single gender status. On the RSO form, there is a check box on the form for fraternities/sororities (with no further explaination about gender status - except an email from the Greek Life Coordinator stating they would have to surrender single-sex status). We believe being denied that status, is a violation of Title 9 protetction.

I would hope that Kappa Sigma's expansion chair/committee looked at more than "OMG, this group of students that we don't know won't get the chance to be Greek!" when making the decision to expand to FGCU.

I'll take inductive fallacies for $500, Alex.

My thoughts are that I'm not sure how it matches up with the story as it's been told in this thread. And given what we've seen in this thread, I'd be curious to hear the school's version.

Beyond that, like I said, you can have your own lawyers (or law students maybe?) do research for you. I'm done.