It appears that whatever "happened" between Phi Gamma Delta and their Tau Deuteron Chapter has been resolved.

Now you're reaching beyond your area of expertise and into mine. The classy people at Harvard and Yale -- old money and others -- NEVER talk up their money, influence, trust funds etc. in a public forum like this. A serious talk about investments with close friends is one thing. But any gentleman at the Cottage Club at Princeton would rather transfer to Rutgers than publicly discuss how his grandfather founded Goldman Sachs. If you expressed that kind of thing among the tuxes and strawberries at the Eliot House Spring Fete, you would be universally considered an embarrassment. Publicly expressing your "disgust" with "black culture" would pretty much destroy your reputation permanently. You can have whatever opinions you want, but tact is considered the heart and soul of manners among the classy people at Harvard and Yale.

If the essence of what's desirable about "frattiness" is being prepared for a business setting at all times, I haven't seen much that's business-ready in this thread. No leading i-bank or law firm would hire a candidate who talked publicly about how interracial marriage is bad for society, or about his reluctance to socialize with gay people...it's very bad for business. And it wouldn't matter how tasteful his clothing might be.

Note that there isn't any "IvyHard.net" board where anonymous Harvard and Yale undergrads talk trash about their wealth and how they are too classy and exclusive to voluntarily associate with those useless gel-heads who go to Big State U. Why? Because they actually have class.

Well theres also a difference. That site you refer to is a mostly anonymous site FOR those kind of people. It is not for outsiders. Similarly, this is a message board, and a mostly anonymous one. It is appropriate then that subjects such as gay marriage or black culture be discussed here. There is a certain sub society of the elite, who carry on a more English tradition of absolutely not speaking on anything of controversial nature, except in a very private nature. The fact that you would project that on to the entire elite of Ivy League schools, however, is mistaken. For every well reared student who has perfect social etiquette, there is a snobby and spoiled student who will not hesitate to use their wealth, race or family standing as offense or defense in a public argument. I know you've seen this occur, as have I.

Ok, if they are not giving up our ritual, Creed, or Standard - how would they be a separate fraternity? And, as a chapter advisor who is in contact with many other advisors and headquarter officers, again: I have never heard of a Sigma Chi chapter that is wishing to break away. I also haven't heard how our Headquarters is screwing up the chapters. While sometimes chapters don't care for policies of Headquarters, they suck it up, act like men and carry on the traditions of Sigma Chi.

Eh, not really. Many of us know each other, have met IRL or can easily figure out who is who based on screennames, location, posts about their school, etc.

Just admit that you got pwned and STFU already. You and your various personalities have nothing positive to add to this board...let alone life.

Again, I am not totally sure of the situation. One of my FIJI friends told me the story but it was quite a long one. I'll have to ask him again and report back. It is pretty widely known though...I was at my ranch with some Phi Delts and FIJIs from Texas Tech and even those guys had known about it.

For one, pwned isn't a real word, so if you're going to speak directly to me, I would prefer you use the English language. Also, telling me to STFU is very classy on your part, I'm sure the great states of South and North Carolina, along with your sorority, would be proud. For me, it is anonymous. It allows me to make various opinionated statements without being deemed "racist" or "intolerant" in real life. Unfortunately in our society, disagreeing with something that is politically correct can often lead to a label, and one that can be quite damaging.

I miss that show...

Actually its a hunting ranch in West Texas, we don't have horses....but I appreciate your miniscule attempt at humor. I was unaware that owning a ranch was something to be made fun of. Land ownership is pretty fratty in my book.

You're funny. Not funny in a tee-hee sort of way, but funny in an "Everyone is laughing at me but I think they're laughing with me" sort of way.

But you still got

http://mishilo.image.pbase.com/u13/c...5711.pwned.jpg

Beep! Beep! Beep! I hear the sound of a back peddle. This post is written in the present tense (i.e., "and is now known solely as FIJI.") clearly showing that you were giving information for something that is currently in effect. And by saying "here on campus", you are giving the impression that you knew this for a fact. I think if a chapter on my campus was a local instead of a national/international, I would definately know about it.

Little red x?

Shiner, if you accept "STFU" i think you have to accept pwned as well...

It's some weird internet slang rule :p

Shows up fine for me...even in your quote. :( Maybe it's like Buttonz's Delta symbol in her siggy...

I'm confused I got what? I really don't know who this woman is, but she's pretty annoying and seemingly unintelligent. Now regarding the internet slang rule, at least STFU makes sense. I mean its an abbreviation. According to Wikipedia (created by an Auburn grad, genius), "pwned" is a slang for "owned" which was created through some sort of nerd video game. I would put it in the category of "what is destroying our country," right beside Derek Jeter.