It's okay.. guys still know that ALL women are crazy, not just Southern ones. :p

lol.;)

You just made my day. :D

I certainly didn't say what I did was right, just that I understood being overprotective of letters. And I didn't damage her car in taking them off "ripping" them off may be an overstatement. I removed them. And yes, I was very certain it was still her and only her car at the time. I'll admit to it being out of line. A lot of us knew her really well and were really upset about her actions.

And really, no I don't see it as being more shameful. If someone asked me what I was doing then, I'd be honest about it. Honestly, stealing letters is somewhat identity fraud. She is claiming a relationship to me that she does not have, and I didn't want anybody to confuse that fact. If I had walked by and done nothing, those watching may assume that she is part of my GLO or that I simply don't care about the reputation of my letters. Maybe I have misplaced some of my value judgement about my letters, but I doubt it.
It was immature, welcome to college. I'm so glad everyone else seems to be soooooo above it. Congrats if you are, you win a better-than-me personal presentation on the internet award.

At best, I didn't handle the situation in the best way. But it cant' be said she had a right to those letters, and as we have the obligation to take back stuff with letters or ritual (pins) from depinned members, I figured we should probably take off the stuff from a nonmember. Didn't really know whose job it was to do that, so I took it into my own hands.

Also, as per the name, it was what I thought of on the fly. Sorry I'm not very creative or up to some other southern woman's standards. It's a message board darling, I'm not introducing myself in the street as "southern sugar". I am very south-of-the-mason-dixie line, it's the culture that I understand and an identifying mark. I enjoyed the alliteration and simply how it rolled off the tongue. Plus, i have an aversion to numbers in screen names as they're just not aesthetically pleasing. And hard to get in the right order sometimes.

Exactly, DARLING. You are bringing a bad name to the "Southern" culture you claim to understand so well. And, no, your asinine ideas on how your group's letters somehow BELONG to you and GIVE you the right to bother others property in your group's name DO NOT meet the standards of the Southern women on here.

One last thing, DARLING. You're right it IS just a message board. Keep sticking your foot in your mouth trying to defend your stupid actions... I'll keep reading and being appalled at your lack of common sense -- just like your nationals are probably doing on here, too. It's just a message board -- that happens to be quite well known by national officers of most of these groups.

Well thank you for telling me I won an award for not being all tacky as hell on the internet. I don't live in The South, I live in the Pacific Northwest, specifically Idaho. I personally wouldn't take the chance of messing with someone's letters because it is not that deep and I guess I'd rather just let someone have a $1.99 sticker they paid for than mess with someone else's property. I could make a generalization about how people from where you're from aren't raised right with good home training, but there are enough classy people from The South on GC to offset one person who can't respect other people's property, even if they feel ownership over letters someone is using that they have no idea about the meaning behind.

Tacky is as tacky does.

I honestly don't understand the issues with the outrage over wanna-bes. I mean if someone wants to perp Alpha Gam that just means we're the hotness and they're not and will never be. It isn't worth causing a scene or having criminal charges brought. I swear it is like that episode of "The Office" where Andy freaks out because Dwight is wearing Cornell stuff. Maybe I should start going off on people who wear Idaho gear if they can't prove their dates of attendance. Oh wait, I live in Idaho, if I messed with someone's property I'd get shot.

I can understand why you did what you did. If she wasnt a member then she shouldnt have had those letters. I probably would have done the same thing as an undergrad.

when we ordered our Homecoming letter shirts, we had an alum order one for her daughter! we do NOT have a legacy rule... so what happens when the child comes to college and doesn't get a bid?

There's this homeless-looking guy on my campus who is known to take anything/everything he can get his hands on.

He was once seen in a Phi Sigma Sigma Bid Day shirt.

(And I'm not talking about the GC Jamaican)

Did they know at the time she ordered it that's what she was going to do with it?? I would NOT have let her order it if she said that's what it was for. She should know better.

How old is her daughter?

If she's like...young, then no big deal to me. But high school or older and that's a little inappropriate.

I know this is really old... but a similar thing happened to me last year with a guy!! I was on a retreat (not a Greek one) at this place way out in the woods, and I saw a really hippie, earth-spirit kind of guy wearing a Lambda Chi Alpha shirt. He looked like he was in his mid twenties, so I assumed he had graduated recently. I ran up to him really excited and asked, "What chapter are you from? My cousin's a Lambda Chi Alpha!" He looked really disgusted and said, "I'm not a frat guy."

So naturally I asked why he was wearing a "frat guy" shirt... turns out he got it at Goodwill. Morals of the story: 1) Don't donate your old letters, because you don't know where they'll end up, and 2) Don't act so incredulous if you're wearing letters and someone thinks that you're *GASP* actually Greek!

Her daughter is probably 7 or 8. Maybe 9. We knew, but since she is an alum... we can't tell her no. My sisters told me that her daughter has a ton of letter shirts... I'm talking stitched letters.

Are you really worrying about something that may or may not happen 10 years from now? Is it really worth worrying about?

I understand the importance of only letting members wear letters, but it's something you can't control since she already has em. If she orders shirts with you guys next time, just tell her "we'll order one for you, but your daughter does not get one."

It's not that big of a deal.

It really isn't a big deal that she has them. I just wonder because we have already had problems with that in the past; girls who claim legacy and tell everyone that they already have a bid. We do not guarentee bids to anyone.