Their closest Alumnae Panhellenic chapter. www.npcwomen.org
People they know in real life -- teachers, parents' friends, church friends, etc.

SDT at 'Bama
 

Please e-mail me when you find out what is going on. I know several alums from Rho and they are lovely women. I think it would be a shame to lose Rho chapter after 63 years of its being one of our top chapters. I hope they do well when they are allowed to recruit new members.

Fraternally,
Paula M.
Sigma Delta Tau
ΣΔT
Patriae Multi Spes Una One Hope of Many People

I would suggest that they ask the Alpha Phi representatives who are setting up the interviews on campus how they should go about getting a recommendation if they don't know any Alpha Phis from their hometown. I'd be interested to see what their response is.

I wanted to make a comment reference Gamma Phi. My daughter is a Gamma pledge. She has won beauty pageants, talent shows, graduated high schools with a GPA over 3.5, received two scholarships from the University and a third from another national organization. I think these creditials are on par with any other girl at Bama no matter what house they are in. We are very proud she is a Gamma and as a matter of fact I would not want her to be anything but a Gamma.

Sounds like GPhiB got a great new pledge. Hope your D enjoys herself.

I did a quick search of my own sorority online and found small and possibly "struggling" chapters in other parts of the country. I found not every girl looked like a beauty queen. It just reminded me that we may be big at Bama, but we aren't everywhere else! I think everybody can say the same thing--somewhere there's a chapter that's struggling, or is new and trying to build itself. I wish more girls would see what an opportunity there is at Bama to pursue a smaller or new sorority. This is a great school for being greek!

If only PNMs and Helicopter Moms saw it your way, the world and GC would be a better place:)

And, I would love to Sticky your original post

. . . and we're thrilled to have her! Congratulations!

You might just be the most mature undergrad I've read on here. Kudos to you!

question
 

Is there any hope of getting a snap bid at Bama if pnm dropped out before final round? Is there hope as you get better known that you might appeal to a chapter that previously dropped you? In this large recruitment I cannot believe that all the decisions were perfectly made.

No one will be able to give you a definitive yes or no.

Yes, not all decisions can be perfectly made, but such is life -- there's nothing you can do about it.

Please click on the link below when you have a chance. THX.

Snap bids are given out as part of formal recruitment (generally to help chapters meet quota and place more PNMs), and recruitment is over, so no there are no chances of her getting one at this point. I believe that all sororities at Bama are either at or close to total at this point anyway. So they are not likely to be giving out bids at this point anyway.

Here are a couple threads explaining snap bidding and how it works:

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...highlight=snap

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...highlight=snap

Also, I'm not sure if she would be interested in the opportunity or not, but there will be a new sorority forming at Bama within the next few weeks. Competition for the colony will be high or course (and there are no guarantees that she'l be asked to join) but it's worth going to an event and checking out.

I have to say ITA!

As you mature and have age behind you - you tend to have a much clearer picture of things. Many young women may have the grades, service, and such to be a strong candidate for a sorority, but what many don't have is the wisdom and maturity as you do. They are still focused on that "top tier" "most popular" mentality from their early education/young life. As you age, you realize this is just not important.

It can be very hard to overcome this and with some people they never do. It is just a true joy in life to be able to see wonderful qualities in every woman no matter what group they belong too.(especially if you are able to do this in your college years) It is really wonderful to meet women later in life who are still focused on their sisterhood because as you age things really change. I truly love how women can share the joy of their sisterhood as they grow old. This is what it is about and the lifelong commitment is a wonderful thing.

The happier you can be when you are younger and the more openminded - the better your life will shine. You just plain feel good inside. It just shows!!!

It seems the more insecure girls are the ones overly concerned with being in the "most popular" or " top tier" sororority. The more confident and mature girls realize sisterhood is what it is all about and it can be found in any of the sororities if you are not focused on all the superficial things.

alpha phi recs
 

Still having trouble tracking down an Alpha Phi rec for Alabama.The suggestion of Rho Chi was made--but if you didn't go through formal rush that is not an option. The Ala. Alum chapter made the sugggestion of Rho Chi.

One can only hope so, but from my experiences it just not as simple as it sounds NOLA25.
I wish the young ladies would think that way, but the majority just doesn't - unless it is just the young women I have encountered.

Nope. I encountered one too.

A PNM who would be attending Bama asked for me to write her a rec. Since I did not know her (she was referred to me as alumnae chapter president) I suggested that we meet for coffee. During the course of our meeting she proudly told me that she wanted to either be an ABC or an XYZ... both considered top chapters at Bama, and neither of which was my own organization. I so wanted to ask if I should just scrap the rec, since it didn't really sound like she would need it, but I also knew that her chances for those 2 chapters were long shots and she might just open her mind during the recruitment process.

Guess what? She didn't pledge anything, and I also never got a thank you note.;

Alabama Recruitment
 

To mcdonald 56--you should contact Alpha Phi International. I know someone there could direct you to the person handling recommendations for Alabama.

To Blondie 93

As I have stated before, my daughter just went through rush at Alabama. We are out of state and I knew how important recs and having an open mind were going to be. My daughter and I spent the entire summer securing recs and discussing rush. I told her that in my experience it is so very important to go in open to all sororities on campus. I told her it was rude to talk bad about any sorority, any sorority member and any PNM. That is not really in her character to do so but I warned her that even the most seemingly innocent comments can be misconstrued.

I think she took all of that to heart and went into rush with a very open mind. She had a wonderful time. She met so many new girls, both sorority and PNMs, and truly enjoyed the experience. She would call me and say that she couldn't believe how many great chapters there were at Alabama and how hard it woould be to make a decision. I believe that this attitude contributed to her success in rush. She did not get cut from a single house the whole way through, she received a bid to her top choice and is very happy. And although she did pledge one of those "old row" top sororities, she and I have discussed how there were a number of others that she could have been happy at.
Also, my daughter wrote thank you notes to ALL of the women who wrote her recs and wrote follow up notes to the women who wrote her recs for the sorority she pledged.
These are not difficult things. Most of them are matters of common courtesy.
My daughter is not perfect by any means but I have tried to teach her that manners are important! She did meet many girls like the one you described and from what she could tell they did not have very enjoyable rush experiences!

Your post was quite refreshing!^^

This is how it should be.

"From other sororities suggesting girls that might be a good fit for Alpha Phi, to fraternities assisting in the renovation of Alpha Phi’s new home at the corner of Colonial and Paul Bryant, the current greek groups have welcomed them with open arms."

My daughter also pledged Gamma Phi Beta and just loves it! Good student, top athlete.. Some of the nasty comments made about this sorority during rush were in very bad taste. In fact when we were at the informal pinning one of the young ladies said a frat member yelled "here comes the fat sorority" when they were coming out of the stadium on Sunday. Awful.

Well I hope your daughter held her head high and thumbed her nose at him. The guy is a rotten little douchebag! Yup, I said it! :D

Of course, the appropriate response is "here comes the teeny peenie fraternity."

LOL LOL LOL LOL

It is interesting the current Greek groups are being so welcoming to Alpha Phi but treat Gamma Phi this way. I think the Greek Affairs Director needs to make it known this immature behavior is unacceptable. Gamma Phi has a great group of girls and this is very hurtful and cruel.

I think the difference is Alpha Phi does not have a stigma associated with it, whereas apparently Gamma Phi does (not that it's warranted or accurate).

You are right, and it is very hard to get rid of a stigma once it has been associated with a group.

The same thought has been ocurring to me.

Gamma Phi has been the "newest" chapter at Alabama for the past 20 years, which we're told over and over on this board is a weakness in the Ole South. So I think it's interesting that the tune has suddenly changed for a chapter that isn't even there yet (certainly no offense to Alpha Phi, I just think it's silly that any negative stigma should be attached to a chapter because it's the newest...especially after 20 years of being "new"). I'm wishing Alpha Phi all the best, I just want our Gamma Phis to receive the same support from the Alabama community, which it doesn't seem they're getting.

ETA: I'm also concerned that once Alpha Phi is established, it will suffer the same fate as Gamma Phi.

Y'all this only perpetuates the problem. If you cannot say something good about a sorority say nothing at all.

Which is why I said "not that it's warranted or accurate".

well, some of you all are assuming that gamma phi is not getting support from the greek community-why, exactly is that? because of something some stupid fraternity member said? or some pmns with attitudes? because the greek community is being supportive of the alpha phi colonization?

it seems to me that gamma phi is on the right track-as kk said, they are growing in the way they want to-RFM seems to be working-they made quota last year and got a great pledge class this year. gamma phi is being supportive of alpha phi's colonization, so what exactly do some of you see as the problem?

Yep.

And I think it's worth pointing out that frat guys making stupid comments isn't really within the scope of what Greek Life can really address.

My point of mentioning the comments made just confirmed comments made during the week of rush about Gamma Phi from other sorority members/pnm's to my daughter. The point of my comment was to only point out how this sorority is commented on during rush week. My daughter had a great attitude about this sorority and ignored comments made and has found a wonderful sisterhood in her short time at Bama. And she is out of state. I have been so impressed by these young women at Gamma Phi....Her Great Grandmother was a Gamma Phi as well.

It still perpetuates the problem. We could probably find a smaller chapter at almost every university.

I agree, you can find a small chapter at almost every university. And I can see where addressing comments and/or questions implying there even is a problem is seen as perpetuating it. However, by saying a stigma or perception is not warranted or accurate, does that not also help (or try to help) combat the problem?

I guess my question is, which is better - ignoring the comments/opinions, or acknowledging and trying to combat the comments?

Well, it's kind of like when Tom Cruise makes a giant deal of saying I am not gay, I am straight as an arrow, I am un-gay, Gaytown is not a place where I would ever be, etc etc etc. All you take away and remember from all those words are "Tom Cruise" and "gay."

A perfect analogy.

well, it's a shame if other sororities are trash talking and they should be reported for rush infractions.

Well said.

And funny, too.