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Rudey 05-20-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1654640)
Some would argue, marriage is a different (and often worse) fate than becoming someone's dinner.

HAHA I see what you did there by avoiding the question I asked.

Look folks, I didn't say what is or isn't right. I just am saying that you can't subjectively remove "morals" from certain legislation and keep it for others. It doesn't matter what the source of those "morals" are...bible, your mother, etc.

sigmadiva 05-20-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1654640)
Some would argue, marriage is a different (and often worse) fate than becoming someone's dinner.


I think this was part of a movie - The Thief, His Wife, The Cook and Her Lover

The lover got cooked by the cook and was served for dinner. :eek:

RU OX Alum 05-20-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva (Post 1654648)
I think this was part of a movie - The Thief, His Wife, The Cook and Her Lover

The lover got cooked by the cook and was served for dinner. :eek:

so i guess i don't need to rent it now, thanks...

nittanyalum 05-20-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654645)
Look folks, I didn't say what is or isn't right. I just am saying that you can't subjectively remove "morals" from certain legislation and keep it for others. It doesn't matter what the source of those "morals" are...bible, your mother, etc.

But morals themselves are completely subjective. It doesn't matter what the source of the morals are??? So people like Warren Jeffs? Fred Phelps? David Duke? They all have their own defined sets of "morals".

Rudey 05-20-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1654663)
But morals themselves are completely subjective. It doesn't matter what the source of the morals are??? So people like Warren Jeffs? Fred Phelps? David Duke? They all have their own defined sets of "morals".

So lets use your morals (ie no morals) and marry cows.

nittanyalum 05-20-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654666)
So lets use your morals (ie no morals) and marry cows.

Those aren't my morals. Next argument.

Rudey 05-20-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1654669)
Those aren't my morals. Next argument.

You want morals taken out of the argument so we did. You have no argument.

sigmadiva 05-20-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1654656)
so i guess i don't need to rent it now, thanks...

Sorry, my bad. But the movie is like over 20 years old.....

RU OX Alum 05-20-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva (Post 1654702)
Sorry, my bad. But the movie is like over 20 years old.....

i was just messing around

i don't use emocrons, sorry

preciousjeni 05-20-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654630)
I'm sure that cow would rather partake in a marriage than be slaughtered so you can eat it. But feel free to protect that cow by killing it.

Mmm...beef. :D

nittanyalum 05-20-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654678)
You want morals taken out of the argument so we did. You have no argument.

There are plenty of other bases of argument on behalf of gay marriage. Legal and financial being primary over most. Trying to muddy the issue by fear-mongering the "slippery slope" towards legalized beastiality and incest is not an educated approach to the subject.

preciousjeni 05-20-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654630)
I'm sure that cow would rather partake in a marriage than be slaughtered so you can eat it. But feel free to protect that cow by killing it.

On the real, a marriage is a contract. If you're unable to understand the contract, you can't intelligently enter into it. You're tasked with bringing the cow to the same intellectual level as a human, which is very different from leaving the cow as a cow and eating it.

Kevin 05-20-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudey (Post 1654645)
HAHA I see what you did there by avoiding the question I asked.

Look folks, I didn't say what is or isn't right. I just am saying that you can't subjectively remove "morals" from certain legislation and keep it for others. It doesn't matter what the source of those "morals" are...bible, your mother, etc.

How about this:

The government has several non-moral objections to animal marriage. The first that occurs to me is that if we were all allowed to marry our animals, the IRS Code could basically forget about having a "single" status for taxpayers. We'd ALL be "married, filing jointly" with Toonces. Being married to someone who doesn't produce income greatly reduces your own tax liability.

-- so there's a non-moral reason for you.

DSTCHAOS 05-20-2008 12:25 PM

More than any other discussion on GC over the years, I feel like I'm watching 5 year olds debate social issues.

"Cows and Carats...news at 11!!!"

Senusret I 05-20-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1654733)
How about this:

The government has several non-moral objections to animal marriage. The first that occurs to me is that if we were all allowed to marry our animals, the IRS Code could basically forget about having a "single" status for taxpayers. We'd ALL be "married, filing jointly" with Toonces. Being married to someone who doesn't produce income greatly reduces your own tax liability.

-- so there's a non-moral reason for you.

http://www.katzemoto.com/images/blog/toonces.jpg


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