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Way to make me run out and get a Botox shot! lol ;) I was just replying to Sandy's post and she didn't make any mention of dates as far as I saw. |
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I found the 20 year old example very helpful because I had been wondering if re-organizations ever work long terms.
I would expect any group to get a big boost by having a colonization type rush, but whether they could sustain that long term is a little different. In the south, twenty years ago might be pretty recent activity. I think that it was about the same time ago that UGA expanded for the last time, and it was a DZ re-colonization, if I'm not mistaken. ETA: I'm nearly positive that DZ was off campus and came back, (a lot of girls from my town were early members after the recolonization) but there doesn't seem to be a record I could verify. Is it just standard practice to report dates on campus as continuous since the chartering? Edited Again: An online UGA factbook gives the DZ date as 1987. 20 years later, they are doing very well. |
Okay confused, shouldn't re-organization and recolonization be two different things? I ask because it seems like people are saying they are one in the same. Recolonization, to me, signifies that the chapter left the campus and came back.
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Unless you can see when a chapter left and see a break of more than four years, which would clearly be a re-colonization, then I think it's going to be hard to tell the difference between the times a GLO has ALL current actives go alum and then starts with a new group vs. telling some actives to go alum and starts with a new group, which both might be re-organizations. I think part of what causes the problem it that no or few groups really openly talk about doing these things at all. It always seem to be presented as if the old actives are long gone. |
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When chapters re-organize they don't leave campus. I know that HQs have different procedures when handling re-orgs, but from what I've seen -- the collegians are granted alumnae status and HQ decides when would be the best time to hold a special recruitment. I was kinda wondering why people were talking about successful recolonizations when clearly they are different. |
So, even when it's a totally new batch of members with no initiated members in the re-formed group, it's a re-organization?
I'm not challenging your knowledge. I know that I don't know anything about it. But for some reason I was thinking that having the old members as part of the new group made it a re-organization. How could an outsider know when the group officially closed and re-colonized nearly immediately ( as DZ at DePauw apparently originally intended to do) as opposed to a re-organization in which all the old members went alum but the chapter didn't close? |
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As far as your last question is concerned, I have no clue. To an outsider, I wouldn't think that it would matter too much as the terms are more internal based. I don't know, I may be presumptious in saying this -- but as far as re-orgs and re-cols go, maybe things really do work out better when efforts are kept quiet? [I've been up for almost 30 hrs with little to no sleep so my apologies if I'm not making sense at the moment] |
Your post makes sense, and I think you're right.
I'm afraid that the only differences between the right way to do reorganization and the wrong way are that in the right way, you give everyone alum status and while you try to make sure the alums are treated well, you try to keep them out of the media and the university president's office. Focus on the future and the new girls. Generally, I'm not sure that I like policies whose success depends on keeping them quiet. |
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I think that (speculation) DZ didn't want to do a membership review initially, they were just going to close the whole chapter and start fresh when they recolonized. Then when the school told them they couldn't let the chapter lie dormant, they had to think of a way (quickly) to get rid of the sisters they didn't feel were beneficial for the chapter, yet keep the chapter on campus. To do this, they had to have some active sisters. It seems as though there was a lot of last minute changes and confusion. There wouldn't be all this mess going on if they had closed the chapter period, or closed it and completely recolonized. That happens all the time and none of it has ever made the NY Times. It's the picking and choosing, plus the timing of the notifications to the girls given alum status, plus the different info coming from all corners (collegians, alums, housing corp and HQ) that has made this such an issue. |
I'm not quite sure where the distinction between "recolonization" and "reorganization" is, either. I was under the impression that it was a recolonization if everyone was given alum status and then a new batch were chosen, and I have always thought of reorganization as an interchangeable term. However, I guess a reorganization happens if only some members go alum. I'm only familiar with the scenario in which everybody goes alum and then new ladies are recruited, though--before this DePauw incident, I had never heard of some members going alum while others stayed active during any kind of reorganization/recolonization attempt. We always referred to what my chapter did as a recolonization, but the chapter didn't stay away for years and years before it came back...I'm pretty sure that recruitment for new members started the year after the previous members were granted alum status.
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Schools were probably very different back then too... in a make-believe world, maybe it would have been OK for the DZ HQ to do this at DePauw 20 years ago, but something like that is no longer acceptable. At least not at DePauw. |
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