I'm trying to get you to pay more attention to others' posts and do the same. ;)

I don't really understand what you're saying. If Susie is interested in bringing a chapter of AKA into her Canadian univeristy, can she? She has no connections to any NPHC group beacause there aren't any nearby and her parents are from the Carribean and know next-to-nothing about GLOs. Who would she and her friends who are interested contact, or does she have to start a local GLO before bringing AKA in? How would she network with women in the NPHC if she doesn't even know anyone?

yes, she can. why do you ask? are you interested in AKA?

Wolfman already commented on this, but because there are only four NPHC orgs for women and five for men, and because there's so much graduate activity (and intake!) in HBGLO chapters, the chances of a PNM for a HBGLO already knowing about the orgs is quite high. If they haven't been paying attention, the likelihood of them knowing *someone* in their families, communities, etc. in those orgs is high. I also think that the NPHC orgs seem a little more standardized in their recruitment approaches. I'd think for many of them, the informationals are more like a formal open house for the org (and please correct me if I have misunderstood), while rush is like recruitment but by invitation only, with the understanding that one is invited because one has discreetly done his or her homework.

On the other hand, the NIC and other men's fraternities, and the NPC sororities and women's fraternities, can be very different and have extremely different recruitment styles varying from campus to campus. Some can take freshmen right away; some can't. Some are very open with parts of ritual, others say they won't comment on their ritual, and still others won't confirm or deny whether there even *is* a ritual!

As far as NPHC colonizing on a campus, it's not that different from the NIC or NPC in terms of disclosing secret information. Sig Eps won't reveal a password, ADPis won't comment on a grip, and Sinfonians won't discuss what kind of space they're going to need to properly carry out their ritual. So why do you expect the NPHC to divulge more than they usually will, if our HWGLOs don't do any differently? Orgs are contacted for expansion, or an interest group tries to get campus to allow a new org, and the information that's *usually* publicly available is made publicly available in sessions to promote interest.

I will say that the NPHC members here who have been able to convey respect when answering or redirecting boneheaded questions (ones that I, too, often would like to know the answers to!), have gained my respect. We non-NPHCer don't always *know* that we're being disrespectful, because the culture of NPHC orgs can be very different from ours.

Some of us are curious because we want to know more about the wonderful heritage and strength that your organizations have. I think it'd be great to understand how/whether HWGLOs could create orgs that have the kind of community recognition, lifetime committment, and alumni/ae participation that the NPHC orgs have crafted. And I don't know that we *can*, per se-- it isn't something that can be learned, but more likely something that will need to evolve over time.

My $2.00 (since that's a lot of cents up there!)

DSTCHAOS


You dont really understand do you?:confused:

shut up, twit.

That may be true in the US, but to assume that a Canadian student whose parents are immigrants from Nigeria or Ethiopia knows someone in an NPHC is pretty slim to none. I'd say the same for many who are from the Carribean. Please realize that many Canadian blacks in the Toronto area are first or second generation Canadians.

so? if they want it, they'll do the appropriate research.

Many of our organizations have overseas chapters and/or members-at-large who live overseas.

Not everyone will be in a fraternity or a sorority, for various reasons. What you are typing about is yet another contingency. So, instead of getting boggled down in every single possible scenario, the general points previously made in this thread still apply.

I know you're confused, Tom. I know.

Our national websites have "FAQ" and "membership inquiry" links. Your questions have really been answered already in this thread. The next step for you is to look at AKA's national website and so forth.

Again, our organizations are international entities, as well as national entities.

So in otherwords, you really don't need to have alum contacts to start an interest group?

good god you're patient.

it's on the web.

Have you checked out the "FAQ" and "membership inquiry" links yet?

I might type a response that would create more questions and confusion for you, it is best that you get our NHQs' official answers to these types of questions.