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kddani 08-25-2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AXiD670
It's official -- I survived the first week! But I don't know how. :(

Did anybody here that is or was in law school use the Glannon books? This girl was reading one yesterday before class and I'm all like, "what's that?" She showed it to me, and then the girl next to me was like, "Oh, mine came in today!!!!!" I feel so out-of-the-loop.

What about hornbooks, etc.? I think it's been mentioned on here not buy them, but I couldn't remember...


Lol, yes, Glannon is your BFF when it comes to civ pro. All of the Examples and Explanation books are wonderful. They're not outline books (I personally think outline books are only useful for subjects are are conductive to issue spotting like torts and crim law/pro), I guess they would qualify as hornbooks. They EXPLAIN things, and with subjects like Civ Pro (which is the one called "Glannon" b/c Glannon wrote it) it's VERY useful, because professors don't always do the job.

If you've been roped into Barbri yet (which you probably should put a deposit on, because the price just keeps going up, and for most states it's the only game in town) you'll get a first year outline book which is pretty useful.

You're going to have a hard enough time keeping up with the required reading. I would only suggest buying additional books for subjects you're having a difficult time with. I really don't think something like Torts needs a hornbook, because it's all issues and less in depth analysis. But civ pro definiately, and I personally had issues with Contracts (more due to the prof), and needed the extra help.

You can go broke buying study aids. Find out what works for you. The flashcards you can buy are also fabulous- but try to find them cheap on ebay, half.com or amazon b/c they're expensive. Also look for flyers around your law school of upperclassmen selling theirs.

ShaedyKD 08-25-2006 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AXiD670
It's official -- I survived the first week! But I don't know how. :(

Did anybody here that is or was in law school use the Glannon books? This girl was reading one yesterday before class and I'm all like, "what's that?" She showed it to me, and then the girl next to me was like, "Oh, mine came in today!!!!!" I feel so out-of-the-loop.

What about hornbooks, etc.? I think it's been mentioned on here not buy them, but I couldn't remember...

Hey D, Congrats on making it through the week! Was it all you had hoped for?

Some people at my school use Glannon's, some people use Emmanuel outlines. They are basically commercial outlines with black letter law explanations, and/or case briefs and explanations. I find them helpful when studying for finals. Emmanuel has a series called Crunchtime, those are REALLY great before finals. They have them for every subject. I plan on getting it for Contracts and Property this semester. I have a Civ Pro Examples & Explanations book written by Glannon. That was actually pretty helpful. The Examples & Explanations series are pretty good too, it has questions that can help your analytical skills while studying for the exams.

In classes like Civ Pro and Torts, I like looking at the hornbook - IF it is put out by the same person that wrote your casebook. That way, the organization will be the same. It will go case by case and topic by topic. I just use the hornbooks in the library, I'm not going to buy one. They're super expensive and I don't use them enough. The Civ Pro hornbook really helped me understand the Erie doctrine.

WCUgirl 08-25-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kddani
If you've been roped into Barbri yet (which you probably should put a deposit on, because the price just keeps going up, and for most states it's the only game in town) you'll get a first year outline book which is pretty useful.

When I logged into my school email account for the first time, I HAD AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS WAITING FOR ME. I was like, WTF? I hadn't even started classes yet.

I have already been sucked into Westlaw points though.

WCUgirl 08-25-2006 11:52 AM

Is there a difference b/w BarBri and PMBR?

Kinda' off topic, but I thought this was cool. One of the chicks in my legal writing class is an AXiD from Marshall! And, I saw another car w/ AXiD stickers on it in the parking deck, and I asked if it was her car, and she said it wasn't. So...there's another one of us there somewhere! :)

valkyrie 08-25-2006 12:10 PM

When I took PMBR, it was a little weeklong class that covered ONLY the multistate. It was the most boring experience of my life. Seriously.

Barbri goes for what, like a month and a half and covers everything. It is necessary (PMBR is not, but the boringness of it makes you appreciate Barbri more). The one thing I will tell you about Barbri: IF THEY TELL YOU THAT A CERTAIN SUBJECT OR ISSUE WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE ON THE EXAM, DO NOT BELIEVE THEM. Trust me. Know ALL OF IT. I didn't believe them and something they said wouldn't be on the test was, and I was prepared for it. SO THERE.

Also, LOL @ law body. I had a classmate who was GIGANTIC and you could see him grow like every day. I actually lost weight -- I didn't drink much and worked out all the time. It was sweet. Working out helps keep you sane, although I really enjoyed law school until the last semester, when I was really bored.

As always, my recommendation is to use extra books ONLY when you don't understand something completely. Other than that, don't bother. AND ALWAYS MAKE YOUR OWN OUTLINES.

OtterXO 08-25-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AXiD670
I have already been sucked into Westlaw points though.

OMG I forgot about Lexis and Westlaw points! A coupel of us logged into the sites everyday just to get our ten points...with the goal being a Coach Hamptons tote...haha. I ended up with a couple Sex and the City DVD box sets but my friend finally got the bag! Oh, the good ol' days.

shinerbock 08-25-2006 02:20 PM

On a side note, it was annoying toting around my laptop bag and a backpack, so yest I got the patagonia lightwire backpack w/ laptop padded sleeve...and am impressed. So if you're struggling with multiple bags, I advice consolidation.

shinerbock 08-26-2006 04:02 AM

no offense, but the black kids love the rolly bag

jon1856 08-26-2006 10:36 AM

Shiner and Tex
 
Shiner and Tex,

Give how you both posted in ways that seem to indicate a sheltered or limited exposure to life ( for lack of a better polite term) and how smart you are it is a shame and a wonder why you did not go to any of the following fine schools:
Harvard Law
Stanford Law
Yale Law
Columbia Law
NYU Law
University of Chicago Law
Cornell Law
Northwestern Law
University of Michigan Law
University of Pennsylvania Law
UCLA Law
University of Minnesota Law
USC Law
Boston College or Boston University Law.

jon1856 08-26-2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
Everyone who goes to Minnesota law is miserable homes. Also, that's not a list of the T14.

-GP
-Goes to a TTT for FREE and doesn't care

It is..
Take your pick of lists:
http://www.lawschool100.com/

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/gra...rank_brief.php

http://www.princetonreview.com/law/r...s/rankings.asp

http://www.leiterrankings.com/

http://www.hg.org/schools.html

http://www.llm-guide.com/law-school-rankings

jon1856 08-26-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
No, this is.

1. Yale
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
4. Columbia
4. New York University
6. University of Chicago
7. University of Pennsylvania
8. University of California - Berkeley
8. University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
8. University of Virginia
11. Duke
12. Northwestern
13. Cornell
14. Georgetown

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/gra...rank_brief.php

One of the most interesting lists there was the "Law School List Game"....so there many ways of making a top 10,15,20 or 25 list.
Point of post was, Mod, that most are Northern Schools....on any of the lists.

KSigkid 08-26-2006 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AXiD670
When I logged into my school email account for the first time, I HAD AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS WAITING FOR ME. I was like, WTF? I hadn't even started classes yet.

I have already been sucked into Westlaw points though.

We're not allowed to use Westlaw for research yet, only for our assignments on TWEN. They want us starting with books, and then moving into online research. I'm itching to get some of those points...

ShaedyKD 08-27-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid
We're not allowed to use Westlaw for research yet, only for our assignments on TWEN. They want us starting with books, and then moving into online research. I'm itching to get some of those points...

Go on Lexis and start raking up points there. 25 a day for Fact or Fiction. And then there's the whole "Passport" thingee they're doing this year, I've already got over 1000 points on that thing after doing online tutorials one rainy weekend.

GeekyPenguin 08-28-2006 10:22 PM

So that thing about 1L year they scare you to death, 2L year they work you to death...

It's true.

KSigkid 08-28-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
So that thing about 1L year they scare you to death, 2L year they work you to death...

It's true.

Ah, something to look forward to.

My criminal law professor is awesome, at least based on the first class. Hopefully the rest of my professors are similarly great.


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