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TSteven 02-02-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1772370)
Ohio State University: Chapter total can't exceed 100

Alpha Chi Omega - 25
Alpha Epsilon Pi - 24
Alpha Gamma Delta - 28
Alpha Omicron Pi – 7, plus snap bid of 2
Alpha Phi - 24
Alpha Xi Delta – I was told this was the 2nd largest NM class, but wasn’t given the actual number
Chi Omega – 19 (not positive)
Delta Delta Delta - 18
Delta Gamma - 25
Delta Zeta - 24
Kappa Alpha Theta – 22 (they are at Total)
Kappa Delta – 21 (they are at Total)
Kappa Kappa Gamma - 26
Pi Beta Phi - 26

Do you know if the the other chapters are at total? Or just Kappa Alpha Theta and Kappa Delta?

And since a chapter may not go over 100, it seems like it might be normal for chapters to be just under total. Is that the case here with just two chapters possibly at total?

OneHeartOneWay 02-02-2009 03:56 PM

Virginia Tech results
 
Quota was 51. The first number (obviously!) is the chapter's number of new members, and the second number is the chapter's total size, new members and collegians. Total is currently 85.

Alpha Chi Omega- 54, 134
Alpha Delta Pi- 52, 151
Alpha Gamma Delta- 35, 71
Alpha Phi- 51, 163
Chi Omega- 52, 134
Delta Delta Delta- 52, 156
Delta Gamma- 51, 155
Delta Zeta- 53, 157
Kappa Delta- 51, 155
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 53, 153
Pi Beta Phi- 54, 144
Sigma Kappa- 52, 155
Zeta Tau Alpha- 51, 160

LaneSig 02-02-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHeartOneWay (Post 1773896)
Quota was 51. The first number (obviously!) is the chapter's number of new members, and the second number is the chapter's total size, new members and collegians. Total is currently 85.

Alpha Chi Omega- 54, 134
Alpha Delta Pi- 52, 151
Alpha Gamma Delta- 35, 71
Alpha Phi- 51, 163
Chi Omega- 52, 134
Delta Delta Delta- 52, 156
Delta Gamma- 51, 155
Delta Zeta- 53, 157
Kappa Delta- 51, 155
Kappa Kappa Gamma- 53, 153
Pi Beta Phi- 54, 144
Sigma Kappa- 52, 155
Zeta Tau Alpha- 51, 160

Not trying to open up a can of worms, and I admit that I don't understand most (all?) NPC policies: but, if total is 85 and all but 1 chapter are almost double the total amount, shouldn't total be raised or expansion considered?

Benzgirl 02-02-2009 06:37 PM

Denison University

Delta Gamma - 25
Delta Delta Delta - ?
Kappa Kappa Gamma - 20
Kappa Alpha Theta - 23
Pi Beta Phi - 24

KSUViolet06 02-02-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1773960)
Not trying to open up a can of worms, and I admit that I don't understand most (all?) NPC policies: but, if total is 85 and all but 1 chapter are almost double the total amount, shouldn't total be raised or expansion considered?

I think VT added Alpha Gamma Delta in 2006. Maybe their Panhellenic doesn't see the need yet? I don't know.

als463 02-02-2009 08:55 PM

More Phi Mu results
 
Christopher Newport (Lambda Epsilon) = 21 Phis
Elon University (Gamma Nu) = bid matched 36, COB 4 = 40 Phis

InseparableDI 02-02-2009 09:28 PM

Bentley University
Jan 30-Feb 2
Phi Sig-unable to take
Alpha Phi-13
DPhiE-17
Gamma Phi Beta-7

BuckeyeTriDelta 02-02-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1773979)
Denison University

Delta Gamma - 25
Delta Delta Delta - ?
Kappa Kappa Gamma - 20
Kappa Alpha Theta - 23
Pi Beta Phi - 24

Tri Delta took 23. Quota was 24.

honeychile 02-02-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1773960)
Not trying to open up a can of worms, and I admit that I don't understand most (all?) NPC policies: but, if total is 85 and all but 1 chapter are almost double the total amount, shouldn't total be raised or expansion considered?

It's a matter of the college panhellenic, but I happen to agree with you. IMHO, once every or the vast majority of chapters have reached 20% or 25% over total on a regular basis, the college panhellenic needs to take a hard look at themselves and realize that their campus is ready to add another sorority. Of course, there are extenuating circumstances, and those should also be taken into consideration.

ETA: Didn't see KSUViolets' post. Perfect example of an extenuating circumstance!

depauwgreek 02-03-2009 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1773750)
Depauw's bid day was yesterday. Typically they post the names a few days later in The Depauw, but that website has not been updated since December 9.

I was reading something yesterday that they school is "down to" 68% Greek.

The DePauw's website hasn't updated in awhile because they haven't released a paper in awhile. They should have the numbers on the website tomorrow-ish, when the first new issue comes out.

From what I have heard, every sorority hit capacity except for Delta Gamma who apparently missed by 3.

Benzgirl 02-03-2009 11:39 AM

^^^ Thanks. We all know what happens at DPU when one chapter closes. This makes me sad. I have three friends that were DGs in the 80s at DPU.

HuskyAlum 02-03-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1773840)
Do you know if the the other chapters are at total? Or just Kappa Alpha Theta and Kappa Delta?

And since a chapter may not go over 100, it seems like it might be normal for chapters to be just under total. Is that the case here with just two chapters possibly at total?


Ahhhhh Ohio State... anyone who knows anything about this campus knows it has been quite the interesting case for the last few years. OSU has had a "hard" quota and "hard" total since 2001 I think (give or take a year or 2). Quota was ALWAYS 25, no matter how many women signed Preference cards and total was ALWAYS 100. So if a chapter went into recruitment with 80 women, they could only take 20 - not 25.

This year, however, the Panhellenic Council voted 2 days before recruitment stated to move to the "true" quota/total system - YAYYYY!! The campus used this method during recruitment and quota ended up being 22. Total is still at 100, and yes, at the end of recruitment only 2 chapters were at total. Most others were in the 90s, and the smallest chapter sitting at 60. I hope all chapters continue to COB to total either this quarter or the spring quarter since many are so close!!

Side note - since the campus is now using "true" quota/total, groups will be able to go over total (100) during formal recruitment next year!

lauralaylin 02-03-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InseparableDI (Post 1774091)
Bentley University
Jan 30-Feb 2
Phi Sig-unable to take
Alpha Phi-13
DPhiE-15
Gamma Phi Beta-6

Quota was 11

LaneSig 02-03-2009 05:25 PM

According to their national website, Alpha Delta Pi pledged 122 women for their new colony at Wake Forest University.

http://www.alphadeltapi.org/newseven...iew&newsid=227

Benzgirl 02-03-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuskyAlum (Post 1774498)
Ahhhhh Ohio State... anyone who knows anything about this campus knows it has been quite the interesting case for the last few years. OSU has had a "hard" quota and "hard" total since 2001 I think (give or take a year or 2). Quota was ALWAYS 25, no matter how many women signed Preference cards and total was ALWAYS 100. So if a chapter went into recruitment with 80 women, they could only take 20 - not 25.

This year, however, the Panhellenic Council voted 2 days before recruitment stated to move to the "true" quota/total system - YAYYYY!! The campus used this method during recruitment and quota ended up being 22. Total is still at 100, and yes, at the end of recruitment only 2 chapters were at total. Most others were in the 90s, and the smallest chapter sitting at 60. I hope all chapters continue to COB to total either this quarter or the spring quarter since many are so close!!

Side note - since the campus is now using "true" quota/total, groups will be able to go over total (100) during formal recruitment next year!


Wow! I missed that memo. The Panhellenic Bylaws actually don't state the hard numbers. They have a formula (I think I copied it somewhere on this thread) that bases the quota on past few years of performance. Considering few chapters made quota last year and one of the top chapters had to snap bid half of the pledge class, it wouldn't surprise me that they finally changed it.

This is a shame. With nearly 60,000 students you would think they could fill 14 chapters of 100. In my years there, nearly all 18 chapters reached a total of 105. My pledge class had 36.

I just hope that with allowing the larger houses to go over quota it doesn't push the smaller ones out.

agzg 02-03-2009 07:47 PM

Spring formal recruitment at Gannon University was last weekend.

AFAIK, 67 PNMs went through, and quota was set at 7.

The only group I have actual numbers for (at this time - I've messaged the alum relations coordinator and she said she's going to get back to me) is Alpha Gamma Delta, who took 9 baby squirrels. This makes 18 for the school year, which is almost half the chapter (if total is still at 40, which I think it is).

The other good news coming out with no other numbers is that Phi Sigma Sigma had a great year as well - when I was there they were one of the smaller chapters on campus but the Greek Advisor is very proud of them - they're not in any sort of number trouble now! I'll probably post again when she gives me more information.

honeychile 02-03-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig (Post 1774580)
According to their national website, Alpha Delta Pi pledged 122 women for their new colony at Wake Forest University.

http://www.alphadeltapi.org/newseven...iew&newsid=227

Thanks for posting that! I've been so focused on our W&L colonization, I clean forgot about Wake Forest! Does anyone know which society that was, way back when?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1774611)
Wow! I missed that memo. The Panhellenic Bylaws actually don't state the hard numbers. They have a formula (I think I copied it somewhere on this thread) that bases the quota on past few years of performance. Considering few chapters made quota last year and one of the top chapters had to snap bid half of the pledge class, it wouldn't surprise me that they finally changed it.

This is a shame. With nearly 60,000 students you would think they could fill 14 chapters of 100. In my years there, nearly all 18 chapters reached a total of 105. My pledge class had 36.

I just hope that with allowing the larger houses to go over quota it doesn't push the smaller ones out.

I have to admit, when ADPi closed there (I think AOII has the ADPi house), I had mixed feelings. They had a decently sized chapter, but only three would live in the house - which means more about the housemother than the chapter to me. On the other hand, my chapter got the lion share of their furniture - which was very much needed at the time!

Benzgirl 02-04-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1774798)

I have to admit, when ADPi closed there (I think AOII has the ADPi house), I had mixed feelings. They had a decently sized chapter, but only three would live in the house - which means more about the housemother than the chapter to me. On the other hand, my chapter got the lion share of their furniture - which was very much needed at the time!

The FIJIs are in the old ADPi house and the AOPis are in the ZTA house. I know the Zeta housing corp still owns that house, but I'm unsure about the FIJi/ADPi. I feel bad because the ADPi house was always kept up until the guys moved in.

However, the old FIJI house (which was enormous) are now apartments as are the old Phi Mu, SDT and ATO houses. A lot has happened since the 1980s.

PGD-GRAD 02-04-2009 03:10 PM

Benzgirl,
Have you been in the former ADPi house lately to know that it isn't being kept up now? I know the Fiji's House Corp. did a lot of work before they movie in, and it still looks pretty good on the outside. Just wondered what it is like inside at this point.

Benzgirl 02-04-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD (Post 1775255)
Benzgirl,
Have you been in the former ADPi house lately to know that it isn't being kept up now? I know the Fiji's House Corp. did a lot of work before they movie in, and it still looks pretty good on the outside. Just wondered what it is like inside at this point.

I haven't, but a friend of mine (who was an ADPi) has. I think a lot of it has to do with the pristine look of a sorority house where all furniture coordinates with the wall coverings and furnishings vs. walking in and seeing guys with their feet up on the furniture. I know that is stereotyping, but she said, "it's really sad".

amanda6035 02-07-2009 01:20 AM

I dont know if someone else has already posted this, but one of my sisters from my alumnae association works at Clayton state and she is the advisor for the Theta Phi Alpha.... uh...colony?, and they had bid day yesterday and now have 24 women.

LegallyBrunette 02-07-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1776456)
I dont know if someone else has already posted this, but one of my sisters from my alumnae association works at Clayton state and she is the advisor for the Theta Phi Alpha.... uh...colony?, and they had bid day yesterday and now have 24 women.

Yep, Clayton is a colony. I don't think that's been posted anywhere else, thanks for the update! Any word on how the ASA colony there is doing?

UGAalum94 02-08-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1773750)
Depauw's bid day was yesterday. Typically they post the names a few days later in The Depauw, but that website has not been updated since December 9.

I was reading something yesterday that they school is "down to" 68% Greek.

It's kind of amazing they are holding at 68% with the press in the last few years.

Benzgirl 02-08-2009 01:41 PM

Depauw is a big "tradition" school. One of my friends and her hubby both went to DPU. Her parents and two sisters went there and now her daughter is there. Every one of them was Greek (not necessarily all the same chapter).

Even though DPU received a black eye from the DZ incident, students continue to go through recruitment. I think what the bad press really did was lessen the stigma of being an Independent rather than reduce the number of Greeks.

GammaPhi88 02-08-2009 09:17 PM

Syracuse bid day today!

Quota was 42, Gamma Phi Beta took quota and I believe a few more! Its only day one, but I think we have 43. I'm so excited, and I'll post more when I know how the other houses did!

Benzgirl 02-08-2009 09:52 PM

Kappa Alpha Theta at Case Western Reserve took 21
Delta Gamma took 24 (largest pledge class during this recruitment)
Phi Mu
Alpha Chi Omega 23
Alpha Phi
Phi Sigma Rho
Sigma Psi

(will fill in as I get more numbers)

ajuhdg 02-09-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GammaPhi88 (Post 1776904)
Syracuse bid day today!

Quota was 42, Gamma Phi Beta took quota and I believe a few more! Its only day one, but I think we have 43. I'm so excited, and I'll post more when I know how the other houses did!

DG got 45. After the 'drama' that happened with the computers, I'm glad that things still turned out well.

dukedg 02-09-2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1776949)
Kappa Alpha Theta at Case Western Reserve took 21
Delta Gamma took 24 (largest pledge class during this recruitment)
Phi Mu
Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Phi
Phi Sigma Rho
Sigma Psi

(will fill in as I get more numbers)

Thanks for posting, Benzgirl! Do you know what quota was?

Benzgirl 02-09-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukedg (Post 1777196)
Thanks for posting, Benzgirl! Do you know what quota was?

No. Information is still trickling in.
BTW...I posted the bid day picture on the DG Forum. For some reason, my PC stalls out when I try posting on the Bid Day Pictures thread.

ZTAmillz 02-09-2009 11:37 AM

Moravian College
Bethlehem, PA
Quota was 10

ZTA- 10
EEE- 10
AST- 10
ASA- 7

GammaPhi88 02-09-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajuhdg (Post 1777181)
DG got 45. After the 'drama' that happened with the computers, I'm glad that things still turned out well.

I'm glad too...the computer issue had me really worried for a while. But, from what I heard most recently, I think all houses took quota except two.

ASTalumna06 02-10-2009 01:16 PM

Penn State Erie, Spring 2009

Alpha Sigma Alpha - 9
Alpha Sigma Tau - 9
Theta Phi Alpha - 7

mandapanda245 02-11-2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzgirl (Post 1776949)
Kappa Alpha Theta at Case Western Reserve took 21
Delta Gamma took 24 (largest pledge class during this recruitment)
Phi Mu: 24
Alpha Chi Omega 23
Alpha Phi: 24
Phi Sigma Rho: 6
Sigma Psi: 24

(will fill in as I get more numbers)

Cap is 50 (last i heard) but chapters can go over. They added Theta last year to help with basically every chapter being over cap.

I'm assuming quota was 24

KiteFlier 02-11-2009 01:36 PM

Kappa Alpha Theta at University of Connecticut got 38 wonderful women in Fall 2008 :)

Amy_AOII_Delta 02-11-2009 05:21 PM

Tufts University
 
Quota - 35

Alpha Omicron Pi - Delta Chapter - 34 NMs
Chi Omega - Chi Alpha Chapter - ?? NMs but I think 37
Alpha Phi - Zeta Theta Chapter - 0 NMs - not allowed to recruit due to probation

AOII Angel 02-11-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy_AOII_Delta (Post 1778492)
Quota - 35

Alpha Omicron Pi - Delta Chapter - 34 NMs
Chi Omega - Chi Alpha Chapter - ?? NMs but I think 37
Alpha Phi - Zeta Theta Chapter - 0 NMs - not allowed to recruit due to probation

Congrats Amy...enjoy your NMs!

AZ-AlphaXi 02-11-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy_AOII_Delta (Post 1778492)

Alpha Phi - Zeta Theta Chapter - 0 NMs - not allowed to recruit due to probation

I know that Tufts is different with guaranteed placement of PNMs but don't the NPC Unanimous Agreements prohibit punishment of chapters by restricting participation in recruitment or pledging to total?

honeychile 02-11-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ-AlphaXi (Post 1778496)
I know that Tufts is different with guaranteed placement of PNMs but don't the NPC Unanimous Agreements prohibit punishment of chapters by restricting participation in recruitment or pledging to total?

I thought that, too. No matter what, a sorority cannot be punished by not being allowing to participate in formal recruitment. They can be kept from informal, but not formal - but I don't have a Green Book with me. Anyone?

KSUViolet06 02-11-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1778620)
I thought that, too. No matter what, a sorority cannot be punished by not being allowing to participate in formal recruitment. They can be kept from informal, but not formal - but I don't have a Green Book with me. Anyone?


I have always thought that the rule was that a sorority couldn't be punished by being forbidden to participate in ANY form of recruitment (formal or COB).

AOII Angel 02-12-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1778622)

I have always thought that the rule was that a sorority couldn't be punished by being forbidden to participate in ANY form of recruitment (formal or COB).

Maybe there is more to it than what has been advertised. I doubt very seriously that Alpha Phi HQ wouldn't jump in there if they were being treated unfairly.


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