I feel so sorry for the kids, but I'm not surprised.

Their network has supposedly suspended the show until Aug. 3rd.

I really hope they suspend the show entirely. These kids do not need to live their lives on TV like that.

Yeah. The thing that bugs me the most is that when they get older, they can watch it ALL. They might even start to resent Kate for continuing the show for the $75K per episode and maybe even for the breakup of two of them.

If they continue the show it would be bad for everyone involved.

Kate says "the show must go on" because she's doing it for the kids. I realize they might not make 75K per book signing or whatever, but I think there are other ways of getting income.

TLC has put "Jon and Kate Plus 8" on hiatus till August

http://www.popeater.com/television/a...-hiatus/539874

Too bad mom and dad let that horse out of the barn a few years ago. :rolleyes:

LOL, it's called a job. And it def. doesn't pay $75k every time you show up!

I find it funny that when a woman is in a verbally abusive relationship, everyone says to get out. Yet when it's a man getting verbally abused, it's still his fault.

If I was married to someone like Kate, I would have done the same thing. It's really unfortunate for the kids who have to go through it and suffer the most, but I've witnessed this same situation firsthand (minus the multiples) and either counseling or divorce is the best conclusion. I was hoping they'd get counseling and maybe work things out.

I agree - why on earth did these two NOT go for counseling? :confused:They really should have done that....I had to change the channel about half way thru the show - both seem really selfish to me....

Also, I hope the show is NOT returned from hiatus....I only watched it every now and then before and if it goes backon the air I will not watch it at all!

From what I've read and watched, Jon was always kind of aimless. Even when he and Kate started dating, he wasn't really doing anything and it seemed to me like Kate kind of made the relationship, marriage, and kids happen without really consulting with Jon. He was against having more kids after the twins!

In other words, she knew what she was getting into, so she shouldn't be surprised. Most women who marry scrubs know it deep down, but want to deny it, or they think they can "change" him. Sadly, it turns out that they become more like a mother than a wife. Who can blame a husband for resenting that?

Yes, this. This makes the whole situation so much worse.

In addition to watching it all on TV, they will also unfortunately be able to read messages boards, blogs, etc where people are saying all these negative things about their parents. I am not faulting the boards- that is what they are- I am just saying that all these things that strangers are saying about mommy and daddy will be around forever.

I just had a horrible, awful thought: What if the new version of this show was a reality show that followed a couple through marriage counseling? Yikes! The audience seems to love it since that is a little bit of what the show has been for the past few episodes.

I can see dollar signs in TLC and Kate's eyes now...TLC's "Jon and Kate Get it Straight" or "Jon and Kate - It's Not Too Late"

Sick, I know...but stranger things have happened!

If there was ever a situation where 2 parents should stay together because of the kids, this is it! There are 8 children involved here and it will be hard for one parent (most likely Kate) to be the sole or majority care giver. Even though Kate is not blameless, I feel that Jon is very immature and still has a lot of growing up to do. He said in the interview that he was partly excited to start his new life. It sounds to me like he can't wait to not be a full time dad and feels that he was possibly missing out on his youth but now is not the time to think about yourself. It should only be about the kids at this point and then if they wanted to divorce they could have done that when the children are older and less needy. No one wants to be single with 8 kids!

Well, this certainly can't be good for book sales.

I caught part of the show last night when both were saying "the show must go on." Well, what if TLC were to decide that a show involving divorcing parents of eight kids is too painful to watch, and doesn't attract the same viewers as a show with a sweet, happy family of ten? Aren't the two of them being a bit presumptous to think they're as marketable apart as they are together?

Loved Jon saying "Well, I could get a job offer ..." and that would change the plan for sharing parenting while he commutes. Just what does he do, anyway? Lots of really well educated and experienced people are out of jobs in Manhattan as is.

Kate might "verbally abuse" Jon but he will also voice his opinion and go back and forth with her when she is really getting on his nerves. I do not see him as a wimp or passive. Many verbal abuse relationships involve a domineering male and passive female that doesn't take up for herself and has low self-esteem. Surely these are not the same things and you know it.

Eeeeee! Don't give them ideas! LOL

I think that the Jon & Kate + 8 show is over. Their ratings have been going down since the season opener.... and now that it seems clear that there isn't even a glimmer of hope of them fixing it, people will stop watching. People love situations like this and even though there is trouble, they want to see at least hope of a happy ending and will keep watching to see how it all pans out.

Without that glimmer of hope, people will naturally care less & less.

I agree! Kate isn't blameless, don't get me wrong, but geezus its ridiculous to say that she was "verbally abusive." Get a grip! Jon stood up for himself time and time again (he did tell Kate to "remove the stick" in one episode). All we saw was 1 day out of the month in their lives. And of course this show was about showing the "kids" but each person had their own character, and Kate's was the "domineering" one....so they had to cast her in that light.


I also think its wrong to assume that they just decided to divorce without talking it out or do counseling or whatever. Like I said, the show doesn't film every day of their lives, so we don't really know what happens behind the camera lens. You all that are talking about "oh the kids will see everything when they are older" will be able to see Greekchat and how their parents were talked about here too.






ETA: So when is everyone gonna jump on the new sextuplet show??? If anyone is doing it for the money, they certainly are.

I saw them on Oprah when the show was just kind of taking off, and they were talking about this (how he was really ok with just the twins). Oprah asked him if he was even just a little resentful of the fact that Kate wanted more kids and they ended up with 6, and he admitted that he was "for a little while" but he "got over it."

I'm thinking that he was probably more than just a resentful about it (more than he let on), but parental resentment doesn't make for warm and fuzzy TV.

I have tried to watch that one (the one on WE with the couple from AZ). I can't. They're annoying.

I understand that there is a big difference between having 1 kid and ending up with 6....but seriously, it does take 2 to tango (even if it was in a petri dish). The fact that they had to go through IUI to get pregnant makes it even more clear that Jon was fine with having another kid.

I think he's a pathetic human being. There is a difference between being resentful to Kate, and being resentful but saying "hey, I got 6 new kids, I love them and I can't imagine my life without them." I haven't seen Jon say the latter.

Yeah, but he admits that he has pretty much always gone along with what Kate wanted. So it probably didn't take "two to tango" in this case (so to speak). I mean, I'd imagine that she'd be pretty upset if she wanted another kid and he said no. He most likely didn't want to rock the boat.

Only problem with always allowing one person to make the decisions is that you eventually will get sick of it.

Jon's new gal to be on the show in August:

http://www.popeater.com/television/a...nd-kate/542110

I'm not sure if that's such a good idea....

According to that article TLC is denying those rumors.

Wouldn't it be ironic if one of the kids decided to rush in the far future, googled recruitment tips, and ended up here?

I don't know how long threads are kept around here, but who knows? It could happen....

Am I the only one who thought "the show must go on" = "life must go on?" I didn't think it necessarily meant the show on TLC must go on. I hear people say this all the time when bad stuff happens in their lives.

http://http://preview3.accesshollywo...ource=rss%7Ctv

Can someone please tell me what color the sky is on Jon's planet? Seriously, the media is exploiting your children? How about if you and the ex had tried couples therapy instead of running to People magazine for exclusives? How about you sitting down with the ex and having complete honest discussions about what's best for your children instead of talking to Access Hollywood? And, for the love of God, get rid of the Ed Hardy t-shirts.

http://www.people.com/people/article...301330,00.html

I love how the media feels the need to mention Ed Hardy in all articles relating to Jon Gosselin.

Oh sweet Lord, yes. Ed Hardy is for douchebags.

So is having both ears pierced.

Can we put this on a billboard in so Cal? I see EVERYONE in Ed Hardy!

Jon and Kate don't seem so concerned with their kids...sad. I wonder what kind of specials there will be when they all hit adulthood.

Honey, you see Ed Hardy shirts, lighters, car shields, etc all the time up here in the Bay Area and in the Central Valley too! Make it stop!

Lord, help us, YES!


These two people(J&K) make me want to scream! Just saw Kate is on the cover of People this week, again.

So my wife is watching this in the background, and two thoughts that come to mind:

1) Neither Jon or Kate seems all that intelligent (especially Jon - he kind of sounds like a high schooler). I mean, I understand Kate was a nurse, which would lead one to believe she has some sort of intelligence. But, neither of them seems like they're the brightest bulbs on earth.

2) I think the lack of intelligence, especially on Jon's part, probably accounts for a lot of these issues with the media. If they were smarter or more media-savvy, maybe they wouldn't create as many issues for themselves. At least a couple of times they said things that, if phrased more carefully, wouldn't have sounded so odd.

I saw Jon on GMA this morning, and I now understand why Kate treated him the way she did.

Jon is a idiotic jerk. Maybe she did belittle him, but if he was like this when they were married, no wonder she did!

Do he even realize that anything he says can be brought up during the divorce procedings? Saying you "Dispise" your children's mother on national TV before anything is final? At least Kate has had enough sense to side step those questions.

No matter what Jon says or does, I still think Kate is a heartless, unnecessary bitch. Someone needs to slap a little niceness and a warm heart into her. I don't care if she has 8 kids. That's their OWN fault (or the doctors'). Just because you have kids doesn't give you the excuse to be a raging bitch. Look at teachers! They deal with people's kids all day. Sure they can turn them over to the parents at the end of the day, but they have restrictions on what they can and can't do to punish those children. Do you see every teacher being a raging bitch? No.

If I were Jon I'd cheat on her ugly ass too. I heard she cut her hair. God I hope so.

Wow...hanging out at Gosselins Without Pity, are we?

I don't think anyone is to "blame" for having 8 kids. If a couple really wanted so bad to be parents, who's to stop them from having kids? I don't think either of them knew that a) they'd get a hit reality show, b) have their lives turned upside down, or c) that they'd split up when they went in for fertility treatments.

If Jon really wanted to be with another woman, at least dump her first. There is no excuse and no good reason to cheat on your spouse.

Phyllis, are you okay? This anger and hatred toward someone on reality TV is very unlike you.

Random:
My cousin was wearing an Ed Hardy shirt the other day and it made me think of this thread

I don't blame them for having the kids...it wasn't their aim to have this many, and let's face it, stuff happens. I don't understand all of the science behind fertility treatments, but I know that there can be some unpredictability with the process.

I also understand some of the reasons they did the series - Jon didn't have much education and wasn't in a secure position professionally, and it was a way for them to provide for their children. Having that many kids is expensive, and if you can do something to make more money and give them better lives...I totally get that.

But...I don't think that they are blameless as to what has happened. There's only so much creative control that you retain (unless you're a producer, etc.). If you're going to start a reality show that centers around how you raise your kids, you need to realize that there will be some negative reactions. It's a big commitment.

I would think that would be part of the thought process if you're deciding to go on a reality show. How is it going to affect my life going forward? How will it affect the lives of my family and friends? In this case, how will it affect the kids? Do the negatives outweigh the positives?

I just don't think they can come back and criticize a process and series of results that they helped to create.

I would be a bitch too if my husband was as massive a tool as Jon.

I'm probably going to get flamed, but I like Kate Gosselin. Yes, she has a strong personality, but I think she is strong woman, a woman who truly does love her kids and wants the best for them (contrary to what the tabloids report). Those kids could do a lot worse than to have Kate as their mom.

I've been personally affected by a "Kate". I've seen a "Kate" treat a "Jon" the same way and it's really sad. It's when a "Jon" finally sticks up for themself, that problems in the marriage start.

If this were the other way around and Jon were treating Kate like that, all you (general) women would be crying mental abuse, but since it's a woman doing it to a man, it means she's got a "strong personality" and he's a tool/douchebag/etc. A woman can have a strong personality and not belittle her husband, being a complete bitch to him in front of their kids. How do you think the kids would respect the father if that had continued? One day these kids will look back, maybe see the episodes, and see their mother for what she is. A heartless bitch.