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JWithers 05-25-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1451501)
Show me how I accused you of anything but being your true self? What more can we expect from participants other than what is written on a public message board and you only gave personal anecdotal evidence as to your reasons why "anyone can go to college".

That was your reality. But, is your reality another's reality?

So, yes, what I did was QUESTIONED you and ask you what you meant by your comments. Have you answered them? And if I was of lesser mind, I found that you blamed me for questioning you. Then, you decided to slander me after I have been posting on GC for 7 years.

After that, Hayle yeah I am angry aside from that you stated some very biased stuff. Hey, but I guess I had that coming when I referred to my personal cultural reference, which I admire greatly, and that just shows your trustworthiness for any comments made in that respect especially in the AKA Ave...

As far as differing opinions. Well, my husband has a more colorful definition of how "opinions" should be viewed and they are similar to that of a body organ...

And I do not reside in the realm of stoic or strict understanding it is an occupational hazard. So, yes my mind can be changed with strong data, logical reasoning and persuasion. Most people do this tactic by communication. I am forced to do it in my career everyday.

Hey, I do not have a problem if you write to me where and why disagree with my comments and your reasons. But since you added emotional and personal language to your comments that caused you to fail to convey the true aspects of what you were trying to state. If you thought you did that, how come you use all that bolding?

Besides, Kevin explained his posts similarly and I totally disagree with some of his comments, but he never became personal, moreover, I respect him for the comments he said because he logically stated his reasons. Moreover, this issue is complex and requires communication.

And really, have you ever thought that maybe I do not comprehend what you are writing? People often read the tone from one's writing.

And I cannot make you feel condescension. All I can do is merely say something. Ultimately, you are the one who choses to interpret it and decide how you feel, then how to act on it...


I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before!:rolleyes: FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.

AKA_Monet 05-25-2007 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1454781)
I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before!:rolleyes: FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.

I thought you were ignoring me? :confused:

JWithers 05-25-2007 12:31 AM

Turns out you can't ignore Mods! (soooo unfortunate)

Nice rebuttal by the way.:rolleyes: So even though poor folks can't go to college, it's okay for you to tell them in an interview to go back to school! BRILLIANT! Man, you have all the answers. I tried to be amenable but you had to act all rude. (and not very witty)

So opinions are like ..what was that? Oh, yeah, well, you should know! :rolleyes:

You are so full of yourself you don't have room for reason.

AKA_Monet 05-25-2007 12:48 AM

Why do you care anyway?
 
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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1454791)
Turns out you can't ignore Mods! (soooo unfortunate)

Nice rebuttal by the way.:rolleyes: So even though poor folks can't go to college, it's okay for you to tell them in an interview to go back to school! BRILLIANT! Man, you have all the answers. I tried to be amenable but you had to act all rude. (and not very witty)

So opinions are like ..what was that? Oh, yeah, well, you should know! :rolleyes:

You are so full of yourself you don't have room for reason.

Pot, meet kettle...

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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1454781)
I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before!:rolleyes: FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.

You want touchy-feely. And I have had a BAD DAY at work... Okay. Whatever, Good luck with that...

preciousjeni 05-25-2007 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1454781)
You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.

You really just pulled this out of a suspected parody thread?

Munchkin03 05-25-2007 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1454644)
In reality, few insurance benefits are easy to get as some people believe. For example, when I worked in mental health and someone's insurance company said they had to leave an inpatient psych unit after 5 days, they would say "But my policy says I get 30 days". They didn't realize that you only get as many days as they decide you need. If someone documents in your chart that you smiled when you are supposed to be depressed then BAM, you're outta there.

But, isn't your story more an example of people not properly reading their policies? Mine clearly states that I have a 30 day MAXIMUM for inpatient mental health care as determined by a physician. People do this all the time--for example, thinking they have a $15 copay on all of their doctor visits, when it's really the only ones in-network.

Most people think you can just mosey up to a VA hospital and get full benefits when that is hardly the case. However, I doubt many people think that they're going to get the full benefits from their HMO/PPO.

AlphaFrog 05-25-2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1454870)
But, isn't your story more an example of people not properly reading their policies? Mine clearly states that I have a 30 day MAXIMUM for inpatient mental health care as determined by a physician. People do this all the time--for example, thinking they have a $15 copay on all of their doctor visits, when it's really the only ones in-network.

You and I read our policies - and in fact I've read TONS of policies (but then again, being HR for my company, it's my job). But the average person does not. Especially the fine print like "as determined by a physician".

AGDee 05-25-2007 02:27 PM

The other phrase I find interesting is "80% of the expected and usual cost" or something like that. It's not 80% of what your doc charges, it's 80% of what they think most docs should charge...

Tom Earp 05-25-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1454644)
In reality, few insurance benefits are easy to get as some people believe. For example, when I worked in mental health and someone's insurance company said they had to leave an inpatient psych unit after 5 days, they would say "But my policy says I get 30 days". They didn't realize that you only get as many days as they decide you need. If someone documents in your chart that you smiled when you are supposed to be depressed then BAM, you're outta there.


What is sad about this, the insurance companies do this in many cases and not just in this feild!:mad:

I have seen many expos on National TV who do this. They are there to make $$$$$$:(


Wonder who has many big money lobbiests to take care of this?:(

Scratch mine and I will scratch yours!:mad:

Tom Earp 05-25-2007 04:35 PM

$21.00 a month, according to some twits, my booze bill is higher than this!:rolleyes:

But, if one is able to do this even with one person a month should be considered the Mother or Father of the year!!

Even if single and one wants something nice, well, the fat foods are cheeper.:(

So, I cannot have shrimp or filet mignon, I have to try and buy enough Mac, Cheese and tuna fish to add to it?

Oh, try Raman noodles, add water! So will not do that! I want my stomach to survive!:eek:

KSig RC 05-25-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1455135)
$21.00 a month, according to some twits, my booze bill is higher than this!:rolleyes:

This line is awesome - I'm lol'ing

elusive47 05-25-2007 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1455135)
$21.00 a month, according to some twits, my booze bill is higher than this!:rolleyes:

But, if one is able to do this even with one person a month should be considered the Mother or Father of the year!!

Even if single and one wants something nice, well, the fat foods are cheeper.:(

So, I cannot have shrimp or filet mignon, I have to try and buy enough Mac, Cheese and tuna fish to add to it?

Oh, try Raman noodles, add water! So will not do that! I want my stomach to survive!:eek:


Huh? What are you saying? Why does everything you write sound like somethig Grandpa Simpson would say?

JWithers 05-25-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1454796)
Pot, meet kettle...



You want touchy-feely. And I have had a BAD DAY at work... Okay. Whatever, Good luck with that...


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just what I thought. No answer.

AKA_Monet 05-26-2007 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1455271)
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just what I thought. No answer.

Maybe because I had to do a surgical procedure today, unlike someone who sunbathes and sits around the pool all the day snapping her fingers for her servants... :rolleyes: :p

I'm a busy women, do you have anything relevant to this discussion at all or do you like being so assinine and inane?

What do you want from me to admit I am wrong? Fine. I am wrong. Congratualations for feeling so high and mighty about your accomplishments. To demean the GREAT AKA_Monet. Wow! You are truly special!

Here is gold star for you greatness!

http://www.epa.gov/performancetrack/...tar_poster.jpg

Trinity818 05-26-2007 10:44 PM

I can't believe that anyone thinks $21 can buy anything of any nutritional value! wow.

As for the surgeon who posted- Monet, what kind of medicine do you practice? (I mean obviously surgery). :rolleyes: But what kind?

To the lady who has servants and sunbathes.....why would you post on a topic like this?


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