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Thanks for being open minded.

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Originally posted by pike
First off, these two individuials acted completely separate from their fraternity. Secondly, if you do not attend GA State and didn't attend the party, then you don;t know the truth. These guys are not racist, not in the least bit. I don't know the last time I saw a white guy in any Black Greek Organization. I challenge all of you to become as diverse as this Ga State Univ. PIKE chapter is. And then speak of racism and discrimination. The patry held was a hip hop themed party. NOT celebrating racism. Hip Hop is very cultured including White, Hispanic, Asian and Black. Those at the party were supposed to dress like their favorite rap artists. There were people dressed up like black rappers, and white rappers, such as Eminem and Bubba Sparxx. The party was a PRIVATE party, invitation only. And it was at a PRIVATE house OFF CAMPUS. The fraternity had a BLACK Police officer at the party to oversee it. Why would they get a Black Cop at a "racist party" Since this party alot has happened. GA State has promted racism, defamation, slander, and bigotry. They have violated many of their own rules in their "Code of Conduct" Examples of this are approving a Black Student Alliance flyer, which depicted the PIKES as racist. This flyer is completely fallacious. It showed a picture of a fraternity at Auburn, of a Hunter, a guy in a KKK outfit, and a "blackface" individual with q neuce around his neck. The flyer had TTKA letters on it and said "Happy Black History Month from your friends at TTKA" School allowed this slandarous flyer to be printed and over 100 copies to be posted in all the buildings at school. Keep in mind this is a Campus with a pop. of 25,000+. So it is a big school. Then school allowed an open froum to be held at school. In attendance were about 500 "concerned students" This was nothing but a bash on PIKES. Pikes were threatened, verbally attacked, as well as physically attacked. There was also a black guy parading around with Blackface on. I might be wrong...But isn't this Racial Discrimination on the schools behalf. Or do the rules not apply the same to whites and blacks. I thought we were all "Equal". The Black fraternity members who attended the party and who were "offended" did not want to press charges against the individuals or against the chapter. But for some reason the Asst. Dean of Students pressed charges on the School's behalf. The judicial process has went through for those two individuals, they are awaiting the outcome. Which will most likely be appealed. Thetre are many other legal issues that i won't go into. All I can say is that these guys ar not racist. Don't pass judgement on anyone unless you personally know them. Thanks for all of The GA State students who have posted replies about the truth. And for everyone else- Here is the truth. So why don't you stop Bitching. Nothing aboput this was racist. It was a themed party, and is covered under the 1st and 13th ammendments of The Constitution of the US...you know the one we all Live by. So stop listening to the media, and all the liberal bullshit out there, and open you biased minds. It is ya'll whol look like ignorant pieces of shit talking about stuff without knowing the truth.

Do you read or just type?
I could point out more holes in this argument, but it serves no point. Doesn't really matter anyway, they've gotten their punishment. Perhaps you should go help them "get it together" instead of coming on the internet to argue, you stated your opinion, as I stated mine. Case Closed On My End
All that extraforaneous "small-minded" dialogue wasn't necessary. I'm not Greek and I don't attend GA State, so my interest in this issue is limited. I simply stated an opinion.

There is no justification for those two individuals doing what they did. Yet, as soon as they arrived at the party they were told to wipe the shoe polish off. Like I said, this whole situation has been blown out of proportion. Yes, I think it offended people, but the extreme measures that have been taken after the fraternity suspended the members and wrote an apology letter are completely uncalled for. Legal action, in my opinion, was not neccessary. The TWO individuals and the chapter members as a whole have received threats, for the total of two seconds that they had "blackface" on. Once again, action has been taken for those two individuals by the fraternity, I see no purpose in suspending the entire chapter. Clearly they've shown maturity in handling the matter as quickly as they did.

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Originally posted by deuika
For the record, there are plenty of non-Blacks in NPHC orgs, Again, You don't have a point.

I have never seen or heard of a white person in an NPHC organization, it just doesn't happen. Who'd want to join a tiny city wide chapter versus, a large or medium sized chapter at a single school (instead of allowing members from multiple schools).

The long and the short of it is, this is a completely BS event, they DID NOT BREAK A LAW and they were on campus.

I love liberals who wave the Freedom of Speech and Expression banner around, but then if it is something they disagree with then screw freedom of Speech.

I hope the PiKEs are exhonorated and people like you shut your mouth about every little percieved "injustice" against you. People are sick of the race card constantly being played.

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Originally posted by Colonist
I have never seen or heard of a white person in an NPHC organization, it just doesn't happen. Who'd want to join a tiny city wide chapter versus, a large or medium sized chapter at a single school (instead of allowing members from multiple schools).

The long and the short of it is, this is a completely BS event, they DID NOT BREAK A LAW and they were on campus.

I love liberals who wave the Freedom of Speech and Expression banner around, but then if it is something they disagree with then screw freedom of Speech.

I hope the PiKEs are exhonorated and people like you shut your mouth about every little percieved "injustice" against you. People are sick of the race card constantly being played.

are you stupid? i've seen white folks in all 9 NPHC organizations. maybe if you'd step out of that small box you call a mind, you'd see that. do you even know anything about black greek organizations? or are you just a small minded twit? maybe the NPHC chapters would be a little bit bigger if we were less selective of our membership instead of taking anyone who can do 20 shots in an hour (ignorant stereotype, but hey...sometimes you gotta sink to this level). in fact, i'm not even black for your information. if people like you are sick of other folks plaing the "race card" then people like those pikes should stop being bigots.

They weren't being bigots, they simply didn't think through their actions.

As for white people in BGLOs, etc. I have yet to see one. At least at my campus and at a few others that I've been to, NPHC orgs are, no offense intended, a joke. Really, though with three members on a campus, its hard to take them seriously, especially given their lack of events or even making their presence known. Aside from the random times once a semester that APA rents out a club (which Christ everyone does Greek or not), NPHC orgs, might as well be invisible.

I don't think its being "selective" I think, its a simple lack of interest.

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Originally posted by Colonist
They weren't being bigots, they simply didn't think through their actions.

As for white people in BGLOs, etc. I have yet to see one. At least at my campus and at a few others that I've been to, NPHC orgs are, no offense intended, a joke. Really, though with three members on a campus, its hard to take them seriously, especially given their lack of events or even making their presence known. Aside from the random times once a semester that APA rents out a club (which Christ everyone does Greek or not), NPHC orgs, might as well be invisible.

I don't think its being "selective" I think, its a simple lack of interest.

no, they were being bigots. they knew what they were doing. twits like you are the people who apologize for behavior like this and probably think that this is an ok thought process.

a joke, yea right. obviously, you're exposure has been slim to none to spout hot garbage such as this. trust, none of the NPHC organizations could really care what people think about them. evidently, you don't think enough if you don't think there is interest. maybe it's because you yourself don't support black greek events, you wouldn't know anything about, now would you? i could care less about IFC frats, i don't know anything about them....why should i even notice anything they do? ask the black students at your school if the NPHC organizations are invisible. i'm sure you'd get a crazy look. our interest don't go out talking about how they;re going to this and that...we practice something called discretion. but then again, i wouldn't know about just taking anyone who came to a rush function.

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Originally posted by Colonist
I don't think its being "selective" I think, its a simple lack of interest.

Hmmm...The "recruitment" process for NPHCs is extremely vigorous and lengthy. There is nearly ALWAYS more interest than available openings in each of the nine organizations. Besides, have you even looked at the membership numbers? Try Delta Sigma Theta on for size and then get back to us.

99% of traditional GLOs (NIC/NPC groups) are much larger than any BGLOs or MGLOs.

As for taking anyone who rushes...we don't, most don't. As for asking the minority students at my campus about NPHC..

Fall 2003

Fraternities
Alpha Phi Alpha 3 members, no new members
Lambda Upsilon Lambda 2 members, no new members

Sororities
Delta Sigma Theta (wow huge group) 6 members, no new members
Lambda Pi Chi 2 members, no new members
Sigma Lambda Upsilon 2 members, no new members
Sigma Psi Zeta (huge group here!) 7 members, no new members

Growth numbers look PHENOMENAL

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Originally posted by Colonist
They weren't being bigots, they simply didn't think through their actions.

As for white people in BGLOs, etc. I have yet to see one.

I don't think its being "selective" I think, its a simple lack of interest.

Have you ever seen an atom with your own two eyes?

Just because you dont see them does not mean that they do not exist.

I have seen quite a few non-African American members in the NPHC groups at the university I attended.

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Originally posted by Colonist
99% of traditional GLOs (NIC/NPC groups) are much larger than any BGLOs or MGLOs.

As for taking anyone who rushes...we don't, most don't. As for asking the minority students at my campus about NPHC..

Fall 2003

Sororities
Delta Sigma Theta (wow huge group) 6 members, no new members
Lambda Pi Chi 2 members, no new members
Sigma Lambda Upsilon 2 members, no new members
Sigma Psi Zeta (huge group here!) 7 members, no new members

Growth numbers look PHENOMENAL

Excuse me, I'm not trying to separate us from our NPCH brothers & sisters, but I thought that you should know that

Sigma Lambda Upsilon
Lambda Pi Chi

are NOT part of the Divine Nine or NPCH. Those two Sororities are Latina Based Sororities and if I am correct are governed by NALFO (National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations.

I highly doubt that you were able to get the information that you have stated since most times you do not know who is pledging a BGLO, also I'm pretty sure that if a latina sorority was down to 2 members with no new members then their nationals would step in and probably close that chapter. Both of the above mentioned Latina sororities are NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS

Just thought you might want to have you facts right.

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Originally posted by mommag2

I highly doubt that you were able to get the information that you have stated since most times you do not know who is pledging a BGLO, also I'm pretty sure that if a latina sorority was down to 2 members with no new members then their nationals would step in and probably close that chapter. Both of the above mentioned Latina sororities are NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS

Just thought you might want to have you facts right.

Oh you highly doubt?? Check the website before you shoot off your mouth again

http://gwired.gwu.edu/sac/index.gw/S...ls_Fall_03.pdf

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Originally posted by Colonist
99% of traditional GLOs (NIC/NPC groups) are much larger than any BGLOs or MGLOs.

As for taking anyone who rushes...we don't, most don't. As for asking the minority students at my campus about NPHC..

Fall 2003

Fraternities
Alpha Phi Alpha 3 members, no new members
Lambda Upsilon Lambda 2 members, no new members

Sororities
Delta Sigma Theta (wow huge group) 6 members, no new members
Lambda Pi Chi 2 members, no new members
Sigma Lambda Upsilon 2 members, no new members
Sigma Psi Zeta (huge group here!) 7 members, no new members

Growth numbers look PHENOMENAL

this post is proof positive that you have no clue what you are talking about. have you ever heard of a city-wide chapter? we are fraternities, we're not houses. we are not social groups, we are social service organizations. we're not about BLONDES!! BEER!! WHOOO!! NPHC organizations do not have worry about quota. you even ever been to a black greek event? trust, NPHC organizations will never have to worry about the lack of interest. check out Howard University if you really want to see how it's done. you might want to get out of small box you reside in.

regardless of this....what does this have to do with the Bigotry of these pikes?

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Originally posted by starang21
regardless of this....what does this have to do with the Bigotry of these pikes?

It sounds like somebody thinks it's a good idea to try to take the focus off the Pikes by trying to insult NPHC organizations.

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Originally posted by valkyrie
It sounds like somebody thinks it's a good idea to try to take the focus off the Pikes by trying to insult NPHC organizations.

yeah, i highly doubt this fool is anything outside of an internet personality. the price of tea in china....